Where's John Francis these days?From the old board by John Francis(in the archives, all of the poem ran on. I broke it up into lines, but my apologie...

hEY Grey WolfYou call yourself that, but when I look at your avatar all I see is a black-and-white dog......maybe it's all a matter of perception.;-) ...

Thanks for the pictures. I always look forward to your posts/photos.Tom

Pin Cushion> JP and JudKeith, what rationale? The rationale that it is good not to state their name, or the rationale that they should be able to ...

> > Pincushions? Easy note: "several other marks found in vicinity. 1) nail erroneously set by...., 2) horseshoe pit stake erroneously held by....

Pin Cushion> JP and Jud> Maybe a farmer would not understand the posted sketch, but don't think there is a problem with a land surveyor understa...

MightyMoeI feel your pain; and I agree 100%. But the only thing I might suggest, is that in the scenario that a high-order precision requirement is i...

Pin Cushion> JP and Jud> Don't see anything but the relationship between multiple points, I see no bearings or distances coming from other monum...

Thank you Mr. Penry. I agree completely.> The "true" position often means different things depending upon the surveyor. Take the Center of Sectio...

> > > > I also agree regarding the setting of monuments. You should never leave the "true position" (I mean your interpretation of the tr...

> > We had this discussion on the old board more than once. My opinion is that you need to pull your panties up and set your own monument, or a...

I see the best way to represent the position you are accepting as calling to the monument found as the corner, and putting on your plat the distance o...

Good thread. I haven't looked up any case law regarding the specifics of this case. But, I assume there are no other properties that call to or are ...

> Under state law there can be a difference between the state rules for something like "half" and the federal rules for the PLSS. The classic cas...