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Unable to find a surveyor for the past 9 months!
Unable to find a surveyor for the past 9 months!
well, I was expecting to see some sort of shared driveway. As far back as google earth goes, the fences seem pretty consistent. Where is the access being denied? is there a new fence?
It looks like the wood fence connects across both homes and the paver walkway goes around the house and through a gate.
If mid six figures as a PLS isn’t common (+50% in urban areas), then this profession will struggle to fill the ranks.
Unfortunately, I still see postings on indeed.com for licensed surveyors with salaries of $75k. We will not replenish our ranks if that’s what achieving our coveted certification gets you
Really? I’m not much higher than that but I’ve also only been licensed a couple years. It’s weird because I don’t necessarily feel poor but at the same time I have no real chance in hell of affording a house that isn’t a dumpster.
I’d probably have a stroke if someone offered me 100K let alone 150-200K.
It’s the fence between 700 Chadwick and the house behind it (fronting Rosehill Road). We want to confirm the location of the fence relative to the property boundary. We think the fence is 3 ft inside the boundary of the 700 Chadwick Rd property. The Rosehill neighbor thinks the fence is on the property line.
Did your mom ever have a survey done? Did the neighbors run their fence to her wood fence?
No, my Mom doesn’t remember doing a survey before erecting that fence. BTW, there was no house on that Rosehill Road side at the time she built it. And yes, our neighbor did run their chainlink fence all the way to our wooden fence.
I’d probably have a stroke if someone offered me 100K let alone 150-200K.
No, I don’t make $150-200k. But any LS within a 100 mile radius of me should be making at least $90k, in my opinion. And they should be making a lot more as you get closer to major cities
Yes, I was thinking that $500 sounded way low for a good survey. Thanks for confirming.
Not sure if its been mentioned but its pretty universal:
We arent even backing the truck out of the driveway for less than 1000 dollars.
Blame the lawyers, insurance premiums and realtors. They all want the services for free or at some ridiculous rate that’s made up in their minds.
Surveyors should be paid like lawyers, doctors, electricians, plumbers, and hell, realtors making 3-5% on a house transaction just for unlocking a door? Come on…..
At least youre on a great site with people that value you and your questions, and hopefully can get you a direction that helps, in turn you can share your experience with other people and spread the word:
Surveyors are important and worth the cost to save the money lost in law suits to lawyers and insurance companies….
🙂
There were surveys done many years ago
I may have a guy to do this for you. He does small side work on the weekends. I don’t know him but one of my colleagues that is in that state does. I just don’t know how we contact each other since direct messaging is down. Here email me j. L. I. T. T. L. E. D. G. At gmail.
realtors making 3-5% on a house transaction just for unlocking a door?
I’d bet your perception of the value of work a Realtor does is a mirror image of their perception of the value of work you do.
Thanks! I’ll email you.
@gstritter sounds good. Glad to help
The second survey (Rosehill Rd property) done in 1977 would have been done after the fence was built. Unfortunately, my Mom doesn’t remember any permanent boundary markers being put down at the time of either survery.
Thanks for looking into this!
G.
ah Lurker, how I’ve missed your off base ad hominem attacks
for the most part, I don’t have to work with realtors, and won’t ever buy a house again with one because they’re overpaid and don’t do much.
Prove me wrong, Instead of randomly attacking me because you’re bored.
I may be confused, but it looks like a different line length between the two documents between lot 101 and the new “Lot 1”.
Also, the rear distance of Lot 103 changed by exactly 4 feet.
But it’s the same bearing, so that would project that 4′ difference parallel to the original lot line.
@gstritter I highly recommend getting a licensed land surveyor involved. As Andy noted, the two surveys do not agree on key information. Also, it appears that the center line of Rose Hill is not necessarily the center of the pavement. On ths survey showing your mother’s lot, Rose Hill is 70 feet wide to the east of Chadwick, then it shows her lot line is 40 feet from the center line of Rose Hill. The survey of the King tract indicates a total width of Rose Hill as being 60 feet. But, I believe the tax map provided earlier showed the King tract projecting some distance further out into Rose Hill which might explain the 9-foot difference along the line between your mother and King. However, maybe it should be 10 feet instead of 9. Weird stuff like this is relatively common in the world of land surveying, so definitely get a surveyor.
If only we could get on a surveyor’s schedule! That’s why I originally posted to your forum. I think the reason for the differing line lengths is that Rosehill Rd was widened to put in another lane in each direction.
That shouldn’t change the lot boundaries between those 2 lots, right?
Only in that their lot extends closer to Rose Hill than what your mother’s lot does by about ten feet. The entire remainder of that line should be in common.
@jitterboogie I did a google search on average cost for a land survey in my zip code for fun. Yeah that doesn’t help us either because that price is way way low. Talking about pay. 3 years ago i worked part time for a guy. His senior crew chief pay was not much especially the cost of living in the area. I asked the boss about that he said that was top wages. He was living in the 90’s I think. I made that as a i man in 1994. Anyway a few months later we were at a chapter meeting and sitting around. i was helping a guy solve a problem on a gps issue. Looking at his raw data. My boss was there the guy said if you want a full time job i will pay you x. Way way higher than i was making or his sr crew chief. I laughed because I said i was fine just getting back into the groove of things. Plus he was what I thought someone should be making in the area where i was but i was not driving to his office for that. He has become a good friend as well. I have no idea what the pay scale is nationwide but i know some areas and some are a good living and some will put you in the poor house. But the race to the bottom on survey prices according to google is crazy. Surely those are bogus numbers. 500 for a survey. I don’t see how one can drive to the site and keep lights on. I remember 90 and 100 dollars for a lot survey in 90’s. But we did many a day.
The deed for the neighbor states that the property is the “major portion” of lot 1. That is an odd call where I work. I find several items interesting. A) Adjoining line calls are made on 3 of four sides of the deed. Guess which adjoining line is not called out? The line of interest.
B) I believe there is a scriveners error in the call for adjoining Lot 101 in the deed. It should be lot 103 if you follow the courses around.
C) There are calls for monuments at all four corners of the deed including the line of interest. Monuments control over courses.
D) The deed course calls do not match either survey exactly. Fairly consistent with the 1966 survey more than the 1977 survey particularly in the rear.
E) curious why the 1977 survey shows the 1966 10 foot utility easement in adjacent lot 103 but not lot 101. I suppose it could be due to the fact there was no easement included along the side of the 1977 survey, just the back.
F) Haven’t taken the time to see if the 1977 survey or deed or both closes geometrically. Many surveyors have seen 7’s turn into 2’s which might explain the 112 in the 1977 survey vs. the deed call of 117 in the rear. If the survey has a 5 foot misclosure for example that would support the 117.
G) Approximate Google Earth measurements on overhead imagery relating occupation to center of streets tends to support the 1966 plat record distances. That along with the deed stating the back corner of the neighbor is common with the corners of lots 102 and 103 would make your corner common to it as well.
You can understand why a survey professional is needed. If your neighbor is interested in finding the line as you say the neighborly thing to do would be to split the cost and agree to the survey results whichever way it may go.
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