Elevation Data Accuracy/Precision/Error

  • LarryJ

    LarryJ

    Member
    June 23, 2023 at 12:41 pm

    Me thinks thats not an auto level youre using if you have a receiver on the rod. 

    ah, interesting.  We have a Lasermark LMH self-leveling Rotary Laser.  The manual shows lots of pics of construction sites. 

     

  • Norm

    Norm

    Member
    June 23, 2023 at 1:42 pm

    @larryj 

    Wrong tool for the job sir.

    Leveling Accuracy:
    LMH-C
    LMH, LMH-GR
    ±3/32-in at 100-ft (±3mm at 30m)
    ±1/16-in at 100-ft (±1.5mm at 30m)

    Leveling Type: Electronic Self-Leveling ±5° (±3° LMH-C)

  • MightyMoe

    MightyMoe

    Member
    June 23, 2023 at 3:12 pm

    I would at least invest in an auto level, moving from those to a digital level was a big improvement for us, but if you’re only doing small sites then an auto level such as a Wild NA1 is probably inexpensive and worth every penny. Use it with a really good level rod and your accuracy will skyrocket. To get really tight you need to move to a digital level/expensive rod, probably not needed for your application. 

  • dmyhill

    dmyhill

    Member
    June 23, 2023 at 9:02 pm

    That sounds like you are using a construction laser, not a survey grade level.  A construction laser has a precision of maybe 1/16″ in 100 feet (50mm/1000m). A survey grade digital level will have an accuracy spec of around 1mm per 1000 meters.   

    Although…I had one grizzled old grade hop that would pull out his own lovingly cared for laser level that was calibrated only by him and never by those “idiots at the survey supply”. 

    Had a site about 1000’x1000′ and he would transfer accurate grades all over…but he was a unicorn.

    First time I met him, he had half the site laid out. I showed up to do some staking, and he said, “You had those two stakes up on that hill, so I pulled off them and laid everything out.” And…it was all within a few tenths horizontal and a tenth vertical, which for rough grading is spot on. 

    Those grade hops do not exist any more.


    -All thoughts my own, except my typos and when I am wrong.
  • dmyhill

    dmyhill

    Member
    June 23, 2023 at 9:04 pm

     

     Wild NA1

     

    No one ever regretted buying one of those.

     


    -All thoughts my own, except my typos and when I am wrong.
  • dmyhill

    dmyhill

    Member
    June 23, 2023 at 9:08 pm

    The manual shows lots of pics of construction sites. 

    ???


    -All thoughts my own, except my typos and when I am wrong.
  • geeoddmike

    geeoddmike

    Member
    June 24, 2023 at 3:32 am

    I would want any prospective service provider to indicate how they will validate their results? Providing plans using a priori error and accuracy values is not enough.

     

     

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