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Boundary survey – how can I find them
Boundary survey – how can I find them
Was it 1971?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCEsfVmMYHE
I hope everyone has a great day; I know I will!
Nope. The dancing days were between #1 and #2. The fastest way to get a gal to leave you alone was to mention the three kids at home (my home) and how having a couple more sounded like a good idea. ZOOOOOOOOM, GOOOOOOOOOONE.
@mike-berry I have reached out to the surveyor but they haven’t responded.
The survey was taken earlier this year and submitted less than 2 months ago as part of a severance of which I bought the severed lot. I have no issues finding the various stacks and iron bars to indicate the corners. The lot is 396 meters (1200 feet) long. Having corners and a bar in the middle somewhere in the middle of fairly dense forest with line of sight impeded and impossible to see the next marker.
I didn’t get a survey at the time because I assumed this was enough. Being a first time land buyer i didn’t realize or think it was this difficult as there is plenty of detail on the survey itself and with todays apps/gps/electronics figured that there would be something for me to use to get an idea in the middle of the woods.
Doesn’t seem right that a survey is completed but un-useable by the person purchasing the property without laying out more money
Far too many times to count, all the survey client requests is that the corners be found or set such that a description can be created. A job from last week fits that situation. Nearly 1400 feet by about 400 feet. There is no intent in the near future of any sort of fence construction. Family members on both sides. One only cares about hunting. The other runs cattle and they will be allowed to range on the severed tract as well as the larger adjoining tract.
Lesson learned. I recommend buyers have the seller pay for marking (and walking) the boundaries. To prove up to both parties what is being conveyed.
Realtors HATE hearing that. But I doubt if they buy a car parked in a garage after just viewing the hood and grill from out in the driveway.
@mike-berry Good advice, most 1 time buyers wouldn’t know to ask that I’m thinking. Much like me they would assume that it’s cleared and staked along the way. when I went up to look at the property I didn’t really think to walk the boundary.
I think I have a bit of a solution which I’m sure most won’t approve of. Take a protractor and line it up with the reference on the survey to North, then line up with my boundary line point E which is 71 and pointing west which is 250 and I can kinda use them as compass bearings to get a rough idea of the line.
As long as I’m inside my offsets + some each I think that is enough. Neighbor is cool so should be good enough for my purposes.
@SomeQuestions It’s your decision. If this property is the most valuable purchase you’ve made and a significant portion of your net worth that you intend to keep for a long time, treat it as such. If this property is a minor asset that you can take it or leave it, treat is as such. Some experts have offered some great advice so there is good information available to make a decision. Neighbors sell and (in)actions and time can have implications but this has all already been covered by others here. Make the decision that is right for you.
Doesn’t seem right that a survey is completed but un-useable by the person purchasing the property without laying out more money
I agree, but this is more a product of someone getting the cheapest fastest survey possible. @holy-cow covered that. Same as someone filling a flat tire with one of those cans of goo and leaving it at that.
@mike-berry Those are all great points. I often encourage people contracting with a surveyor to be clear on what they want and their intended uses. If they want to “see the boundary on the ground” they can ask for that- wood lathe every 20-50′, blazed trees, or as appropriate for the vegetation, terrain, and size of property. Very few people want a black and white rectangle on a piece of paper. To most people, that is no different or more useful than a taxmap.
Before the statute of frauds there was feoffment and livery of seizin. Wattles starts with this in the first paragraph, Brown gets to it later in Evidence and Procedures. The legal transfer of land used to require the walking of the boundaries, now it seems that many owners (and sellers and buyers) don’t even have an idea of where their ownership is, much less an ability to walk it, and clearing the line occasionally. Sometimes a property will have successive sales through absentee owners who never show up on site- that’s the way for some.
Wikipedia links (or see Wattles and Brown):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livery_of_seisin
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