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I agree with you, do the job right or don't do it.
And don't get me started on 2D traversing in this day and age. I do get the sarcastic, "Chief are we doing 3D on this BOUNDARY job?" question at the start of a new project. The answer, "Yes, we always do 3D, it isn't a significant amount of additional effort and it makes a better product in the end."
But a long time ago I made me a rule, I let people do what they wanna do -Hondo Lane
So, because he has sloppy practices you will follow suit?
Don't you EVER dare to post again about not understanding why surveyors are not taken as professionals by the other crafts. Next time you wonder about that, just look in the mirror.
> So, because he has sloppy practices you will follow suit?
> Don't you EVER dare to post again about not understanding why surveyors are not taken as professionals by the other crafts. Next time you wonder about that, just look in the mirror.
Actually, I am the engineer.
That explains a hell of a lot!!
I can see it both ways in some respects. I absolutely insist on accurate depiction of all elements of my survey drafting and don't mind ruining a lazy fieldcrew's friday night by sending them back to a job on the far end of an adjacent county to get a shot in order to accurately draw a survey.
I will however extend a contour or even place a point or 3d node in an area the crew chief verifies as "uniform slope". Occasionally an error is made in shooting a topo and a rodman might stray off his pacing to a point where it confuses a program to the point of creating an oddly shaped contour. In regard to extending a contour I only do that in an area adjacent to the topo specific lot or well out of the area called out for survey. I have to blame that practice on my desire to produce not only accurate surveys but aesthetically pleasing drawings that are as easy to look at as they are to read and understand.
I also insist on my .dwg files themselves to be accurate... All elements in their respective layers. All linework either at 0 elevation or in the case of contours at their true or assuned elevation. All my linework closes, because I snap to the points of origin (man this is annoying when you follow someone who doesn't know to follow this rule or is just that lazy). I even make sure that all of my text is of uniform height no smaller than .8 X dwg scale and I also make sure all my text is either rotated East or aligned to the line it is labeling... No eyeballing for me, my eyeball always sees that tiny angular mistake and it haunts my dreams if I don't fix it.
So now you might gather that I am a stickler for accuracy, but I will say that I have and will continue the practice of stretching or extending a contour when it poses no liability issue and in most cases is only for aesthetic purposes only.
I hope that all of us on this group, of which I am as green as they come in using this site, are professionals of the highest caliber and take their work as seriously as anything in their life. I just think that there is always an exception and think that there are many valid points addressed here but none are so outlandish as to require enflamed emotions or the belittling of anothers credibility.
Sorry for making my second post so lengthy but this subj-ct hit a nerve with even me.
> Occasionally an error is made in shooting a topo and a rodman might stray off his pacing to a point where it confuses a program to the point of creating an oddly shaped contour. .
Yes, if your machine-generated contours of smooth undulating terrain produce jagged topo lines, then something's wrong.
Well... I have worked with plenty of peripheral civil softwares and those that have a tendency to do such things are Eagle Point, and Carlson.. As "crazy" as you might think the phenomena might be.. I guess some surveyors have a knack for creating a perfect terrain first time every time. I often wish for this "Midas Touch". When Roche discovers a chemical concoction that addresses my affliction I'll be the first in line for the prescription of said medication. I doubt they're too worried about jagged contours or the phantom contour closing along a simple slope that haunts some so horrifically..
Jagged contours are generally caused by not enough shots, the lack of knowledge of how to use break lines or the fact that you are indeed doind a topo of a landslide area or a sea of riprap.