A building permit plat for a single family dwelling now is basically a site plan, showing LOD areas, LOC, impervious areas, topo with proposed grading, silt fence, construction entrance, culvert pipes, oh and the proposed dwelling with dimensions.
Yeah, but to play the devil's advocate....
When I started surveying in Maryland in 1989 a "building permit plat" was a drafting exercise attached to a permit application that surveyors were lucky to get $200 for (a lot of builders had a basic cad package and prepared them in-house).
Now that they are "basically site plans" they are a professional service that a surveyor can charge $5,000 and up for in some municipalities around here.?ÿ?ÿ
I know very few people wake up thinking "man, I hope I get to process some plans through a soulless bureaucracy today"; but very few people wake up thinking "man, I hope I have to worry about paying for my kid's education and give up my dream of owing a second house at the beach today".?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ
I recently submitted a preliminary plat for a subdivision and the final plat for the first 31 lots of that subdivision which is in the ETJ of the nearest municipality. On my final plat I show lots in the next phase (required by the city) and have them labeled as proposed. I received several comments back with the GIS department commenting that I need to label the area outside of the first phase as unplatted before the will send it on to the County Commissioner's for approval. There were a couple other items that had to be addressed, so no problem, I change the text to indicate the lots outside the first phase are proposed and unplatted and send signed and sealed versions off to the city for them to approve and send on. No joke I get an e-mail from the GIS department the next day saying I need to remove the word proposed from my plat or they won't send it to the County. My response, while professional, was not very polite considering there were three city subdivision plats prepared by another surveyor and recorded the previous month that showed future phases as "proposed" and didn't include the word unplatted anywhere on the face of the plat.
It makes no sense to me to even show proposed future lots if they aren't being signed off on at this time.
I received several comments back with the GIS department commenting that I need to label...
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...I get an e-mail from the GIS department the next day saying I need to remove the word proposed from my plat or they won't send it to the County. My response, while professional, was not very polite...
I wouldn't ever consider it impolite to inquire what in the hell a GIS department is going to do with labels on a PDF.
@bill93 I agree but if you want to get a plat approved here you have to show the proposed lots for the next phases. Another fun one is the preliminary plat has to show all contiguous land owned by the developer and a proposed lot layout for that even if there are no plans to develop the contiguous land!
What happens if when you submit the next phase development plat i doesn't agree with the recorded one's preliminary layout?
@bill93 it doesn't have to match exactly but if it is too different than the original preliminary they will make you prepare another preliminary plat.
Some GIS people are?ÿ like a LtCol.
They know theyre never going to make full bird and decide to make everyone's life hell until they ROAD and or get reassigned to somewhere else.....
@jitterboogie I grew up as a military brat and my dad actually retired as a light bird (USAF) but I'm not familiar with the acronym ROAD. He was a licensed RN and eventually was in charge of hospital administration in the at Sheppard and Luke AFB. Was up for full bird several times but was never promoted due to not having a master's degree.
Ditto.
Retired on active duty.
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Not all LtCol do that. Esp ones that are in for the right reasons. He got screwed by regulations then because these days he'd likely have been an NP and they would have paid for his master's rather than hinder him because of it. Like my old man, he probably pissed off some single star, and because he was awesome at what he did, they couldn't bust him down but kept him from flying too close the level of the low suns...(my poetic license for the single stars). Its always funny how you can't keep good and great people down.?ÿ Hijack over.
Planners.
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