Believe it or not I've had basically no issues with windows 10 on my 10 year old ThinkPad laptop (a hand me down former drafting computer from our office), or the Panasonic fz-m1 tablet I used before the tsc7. I actually haven't really had any windows related issues with the tsc7 either, but besides running Trimble Access, all I use windows for is file transfers, email and Bluetooth connection initially during setup of any new equipment I haven't used with it before. I can't say I've had bad luck with windows, just surveying software. 🙁
Magnet field was actually the most stable recent software I used but the sokkia ix had issues with tracking and motors burning out. Survey controller on the tsc2 seemed reliable too but I didn't know much back when I used that.?ÿ
@350rocketmike yeah the old tsc2 windows mobile 5 was pretty stable. The predecessor tsce windows ce net was garbage as well. I will say whatever version of access I think its 2020.1 or 2021.1 on a rental and whatever windows 10 and patch it has is quirky. I get a call every other day from my field chief asking me to fix it. I usually tell hime to just close access first then restart windows and open up access and his job and then he sais whatever was going is is working now. I used it for two weeks and had one issue the whole time and a restart worked. He is running another rental tsc7 with the latest 2022.10 on robot and said he has had no issues with it so far. Except he brought in imported a csv file and somehow he had changed his elevation units to meters not the coordinates units. Well ya know what happened. Luckily he saw something was not right tried to fix. I said how much work did you do he had taken 10 shots. I said start a new job and just delete that one. Once i showed him how to link files it was much easier on me and him. If you import then everything comes in to tbc. So same points over and over and over again again its just a mess. When you have a project going. Plus once my control on a job is good. I create a template that is set up for the office side. Then everything comes in nice and neat. And any new small traverses are easy to fix and adjust.
The old "did you turn it off and on and?!" That's the first thing to try. LOL. We basically never had to do that back in the days of windows mobile but it was not a very capable computer so that's the trade off. It is annoying to have to fully restart when it was typically only started up less than a couple of hours ago.?ÿ
Linking files does make it easier for the office until you shoot points as a "check" with the same number, then it caused some kind of a problem, so my PM told me to just go back to importing. I link a previous job or someone else's job only if I need a control point that isn't in my upload, and that seemed to work pretty well although I've only done it a couple of times so far.?ÿ
DXF only works about half the time in access, so sometimes I will throw the job into fieldgenius on the old tablet where the DXF will work perfectly, just to get a better view of everything. I confirmed that these DXF's worked in both fieldgenius and magnet field, only access is fussy about them.?ÿ
Last time I used it to try to speed things up where I wanted to shoot a bunch of reflectorless shots, it failed to connect either through WiFi or LR radio on the second setup. So I'm a little bit crusty with that machine too now. If it was a setting like that channel and id it wouldn't have worked right off the bat, but I had them set correctly and it did work initially on both wifi and LR radio, it just crapped out later on.?ÿ
Also it's not my machine to use, so I have to be sure nobody else needs it before taking it and I often start from my house and don't go back to the office until the next day, so it's not convenient.?ÿ
Assume you are referring to function where you have the checker board of codes on screen and can measure a point and store by tapping on code square?
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Does captivate not have the quick code option anymore? I never use it but could have sworn Viva and smart Worx had it.
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unsure.?ÿ the only quick code option for the moment is that it picks up your typing and saves like one keystroke to bring up the previous typed things, but I'm still working on learning how it operates too.?ÿ but nothing like the 5x5 pages of codes, yellow hands down won that battle for the code supremacy?ÿ
Linking files does make it easier for the office until you shoot points as a "check" with the same number, then it caused some kind of a problem, so my PM told me to just go back to importing. I link a previous job or someone else's job only if I need a control point that isn't in my upload, and that seemed to work pretty well although I've only done it a couple of times so far.
This is a workflow issue. If a point is a control point that needs to be checked, it should exist as a control point in the job template to begin with. That's an office task, they need to be setting up a master template and then keeping it updated as control is added, destroyed, readjusted, etc.
Keep that master template on the cloud project, plus all reference files (DXF, align, CSV, surface), so that anyone who goes to work can pull the latest and greatest template, then link the latest & greatest staking files.
DXF only works about half the time in access, so sometimes I will throw the job into fieldgenius on the old tablet where the DXF will work perfectly, just to get a better view of everything. I confirmed that these DXF's worked in both fieldgenius and magnet field, only access is fussy about them.?ÿ
If the DXF is set up correctly, Access will handle it just like any other software. What exactly is "not working" or "fussy" with the DXFs?
@350rocketmike i have not had issues with sxf yet. It will now take a dwg. ?ÿFyi.
Yep familiar with that feature in Trimble but never found a need for it the way I topo but thought the previous versions of Lecia had something similar, can't put my finger on what it was called though (or I'm remembering wrong sorry).
i have not had issues with sxf yet. It will now take a dwg. ?ÿFyi.
DXFs are stable, but DWGs can be hit or miss. If it's an straight AutoCAD entity, no problem. If it's a proprietary Autodesk C3D entity like alignments, surfaces, feature lines, grading lines, etc. all bets are off. I don't blame Trimble for not wanting to spend the time to keep up with every tiny code change that Autodesk makes with service pack updates...
Doesn't matter anyways, a savvy office team will just spit out LandXMLs and ram them through TBC, do some QC, and push them out in RXL, TTM, TRB, etc. Takes 5-10 minutes and no spaz factor with trying to pick points, do offset, calc elevations by hand, etc.
@rover83 that is good to know. ?ÿHow much do you use TBC. Do you do any field 2 finish and any drafting or is all that done in civil3d or another cad program. We are not doing as much with tbc as I feel could help us. But i am not a dipped in autodesk person either. I know it civil3d has to be very powerful but i like coming in at things from a different perspective to see if there could be a better way. ?ÿIf we always do what has been done we never know what we don??t know. I don??t like to reinvent the wheel. But sometimes you need street tires other time mud grips and or snow tires. Knowing where all that is gives us flexibility and leverage.
