kkw_archer, post: 360677, member: 5453 wrote: My apologies if this has already been discussed, I have tried to read all of the comments but I may have overlooked a few. Has anyone mentioned where the board discussed Complaint 14-17 at the August 2015 where the following comments were made: " Ms. Chruszczak said that the rule says you are to show the location but it does not require including the information that is on the cap. Mr. Garcia felt that requiring cap information should not be required."?
I have seen where that 663.19(e) has been proposed to be amended, and am in favor of the proposed amendment for clarification purposes. However in my opinion (which will not get you very far) it would seem more important to describe the size, color, and material of the cap being set than the fact that it has my information on it. Don't get me wrong, I do not have any trouble with the requirement to include my personal information, but it seems pretty obvious that if I set a monument with a cap, it would have my information on it, not someone else's. The reason I would like to have size/material/color described is because a lot of the plastic caps that are being used do not stay legible very long (at least in my area) due to critters, mowers and other field crews that feel like it is a good idea to put the cap on before driving the rod. If the size/material/color were described at least you could compare that to the remains of the cap that you find. In the case of finding a capped monument, I definitely think you should call out the stamped information it contains.
A responsible surveyor should include a complete description of any monument either found or set (including what is on the cap). I don't know if that should be a law or a board rule or not. It is a more professional way to leave a trail of what you did and where your corners are which is why you are setting monuments in the first place.
Sometimes I get frustrated with board rules or statutes being way too specific, but maybe they need to be.
Just my 2å¢ worth.
kkw_archer, post: 360677, member: 5453 wrote: My apologies if this has already been discussed, I have tried to read all of the comments but I may have overlooked a few. Has anyone mentioned where the board discussed Complaint 14-17 at the August 2015 where the following comments were made: " Ms. Chruszczak said that the rule says you are to show the location but it does not require including the information that is on the cap. Mr. Garcia felt that requiring cap information should not be required."?
I have seen where that 663.19(e) has been proposed to be amended, and am in favor of the proposed amendment for clarification purposes. However in my opinion (which will not get you very far) it would seem more important to describe the size, color, and material of the cap being set than the fact that it has my information on it. Don't get me wrong, I do not have any trouble with the requirement to include my personal information, but it seems pretty obvious that if I set a monument with a cap, it would have my information on it, not someone else's. The reason I would like to have size/material/color described is because a lot of the plastic caps that are being used do not stay legible very long (at least in my area) due to critters, mowers and other field crews that feel like it is a good idea to put the cap on before driving the rod. If the size/material/color were described at least you could compare that to the remains of the cap that you find. In the case of finding a capped monument, I definitely think you should call out the stamped information it contains.
I don't believe these minutes were available when this thread was started in November. I could be wrong, but I suspect the minutes weren't approved and posted until the November 20 meeting. I am truly glad to know this is where the board ended up on this.
