Surveying Profession no longer exists. From a GIS guy.

Can you say moron? The GIS community does not need this type of mindset or marketing.
They can have their seat in the back of the classroom and be quiet until they can take the new found positions in the community and offer more than what the comment can provide....nuff said.

"Everything else is pure science and math. Why the heck should we have state legislatures regulating science and math?"

Sounds more like engineering than surveying, actually.

Lawyers just talk and write ... why would the state regulate talking and writing?

I was just going to say, he must be an engineer?

There is enough idiots in the world

So, he should quit having sex.

(just applying his logic....!)

🙂

N

Written by a GISP, a title that holds virtually no meaning, there is not a single task regulated by the states that require a GISP certification.

Sounds like overinflated ego mixed with a sour grapes.

Screw that magazine for even publishig that trash...

Quite a few holes in that little diatribe ... I find the layout of the article with the advert for Browns Boundary Control and Legal Principles an interesting juxtaposition...

The comment seems to be from a "wannabe". Wannabe what....can't really tell from the comment. Sounds like someone who is trying to profess superiority in an area that has already been accepted as a tool for the public. To advertise yourself as anything other than just a GIS tool is foolish. For a magazine to publish something like this without an editors input as to legitimacy is also something to be questioned. Guess they all have their day when there is nothing nothing better to do than fill pages....

Boundary....you might want to check South Carolina. They have just certified their first....not meaning to argue. I think we are all of the same mindset. The GIS'ers are juvenile at this stage. Let's help them wise/grow up a bit.

I read that article. It seems to me that he was simply trying to rattle up interest to increase his own stock.

Not a fan of his setniments.

The responding letter to the editor was fantastic.

There are lots of folks out for themselves these days.

It's a trade mag. We don't have real professional journals. They publish articles without too much review and most of the articles are aimed towards selling something.

Dave,
Good point and observation.

Dave.

Great point. :good:

I read it, figured it was some nancy-boy and went back to work.

LOL

> It's a trade mag. We don't have real professional journals. They publish articles without too much review and most of the articles are aimed towards selling something.

And if someone tries to buck that trend it takes less than a year before they throw their hands up in frustration and walk out. Just saying 😉

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The main article states some things in a blast fashion that put us on the defensive although there is some truth to them. The fact is, though, land surveyors have never had a monopoly on mapping anyway. Some of his points are misguided, of course, such as talking about licensed contractors which is hardly relevant. I admit that I have compared Land Surveying to my other profession, flight instruction. It's natural to do that.

The response is mainly about the one thing we still have a monopoly on and will probably have in the future, that is physical land rights and boundaries. I don't know how we are going to serve that market going into the future with fewer licensed practitioners every day. My concern is when the day comes that we can't adequately serve this market it will be taken away. Given the fact that we have not done a good job explaining what it is to the public and we are not providing a stable job market for young people coming in then the future practitioners won't show up to work because they need to get into something that will pay the bills. Even Attorneys and the Courts have many misconceptions; just read our Bryant vs Blevins case with a critical eye and it makes you say, "oh my lord, where have we gone wrong?"

I don't know what all the answers are so I probably appear to be babbling like the GIS guy. We really need an effective discussion so we can figure it out. As part of the discussion stupid things will get said by everyone and we need to accept that. Back before the internet personal relationships were more important. I think you could say something stupid to your friend out on the Golf course and your friend could point out how stupid that was (in a diplomatic fashion). There was no need for Letters to the Editor.

I was crossing a two lane county road on Tuesday; I'm at the centerline waiting for a small pickup to go by, he stops and asks me, "How much to survey half an acre?" Cars are stacking up behind him. If this doesn't illustrate the issue, I don't know what does. Would he ask a mechanic, "How much to fix my Cadillac?"

:pizza:

Rick

The Medical profession's dead too now that we have enough Chiropractors.