for a new category called 'Rants & Raves'.
Out doing a survey today using that cursed Trimble 'Access'. Picked up where my predecessor left off on a little survey done in '06. Had to do a 'calibration' to get on to his old work to take off. Have everything dialed in and I'm rocking and rolling along until I get to the end of the job and I need to translate and rotate a group of 'comp' points to fit with what I'm finding. There is no way in Access to select points by point range, you need to select 'all' or go through and individually check each darn point, leave one out or the wrong one in, and your pooched, no 'undo button'. Shot my calibration to hades in hand basket when I inadvertently included one of my points calibrated to in the translation. No warning, no way to do a 'save as' for a back up before hand, no 'un-do' option. So I get to go back tomorrow after I post process everything to get back to where I was before I hit 'translate'. I sure wish Trimble would take some notes from the old TDS Survey Pro instead of trying to idiot proof their bleeping software to death.
At least it was a gorgeous day be outside.
Yes, I calibrate or localize at times to get going using old work and later post process everything.
Rant over, carry on.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
Depends on the version of Access - the one we run definitely allows selection by point range....
jim.cox, post: 332655, member: 93 wrote: Depends on the version of Access - the one we run definitely allows selection by point range....
What version do you run? I'm running 2015.10 and the only places I can select points by range are when I'm selecting points for stake out or a range for exporting. Transformations are as Williwaw said, check each point individually or use the spacebar to rapidly check a series of points. Way too many unnecessary chances to goof it up.
[USER=7066]@Williwaw[/USER] - If you have the patience, you can go through the job deleting the updated coordinated for each point and they will revert to the prior coordinate/measurement and should effectively "undo" the translate.......Don't ask me why I know this. :pinch:
Version 2014.12
The best I can come up with is to export 'all' points as an ascII file prior to doing any kind of coordinate gymnastics for a backup if things go south. For a Ferrari, it's like Access has doughnut wheels for doing this kind of point manipulation.
Anybody has any suggestions, feel free to share.
Jim, the point range selection is only available to me for exporting and is limited to a single set of points, unlike Survey Pro where you can put commas between sets and add as many as you like. For whatever reason that range selection option isn't available for transformations. Go figure.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
Not the real issue but, want to say this:
In fieldgenius, you grab multiple ranges of points by putting a space between them (not a comma as I was used to).
eg: 1-101 251-255 262-309. Maybe worth a try in access.
On the translating, rotating issue, that just sucks. I've lost a day by bunking up a field translation so, I do as you suggest to yourself and export to ascii for a backup.
I would probably export the points after I did the site calibration, to either JXL or CSV, then import them to a new job in order to translate and rotate. At the risk of rubbing it in, I'd do that precisely to avoid what you described. I agree that the Translate/Rotate/Scale routine in Access COGO sucks, FWIW.
You can probably salvage your work in TBC.
"You can probably salvage your work in TBC."
What I did Lee, just processed the raw observations in TBC and moved everything over into a SP projection so I wouldn't need to do another calibration. If I didn't have that post processing ability or lacked the foresight to back things up before pushing that translate/rotate button, I'd be royally scwewed. I'll just chalk it up to the Access learning curve and move on. I'm sure I'll find some other way to gob things up with Access given time, or lack there of. :whistle:
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
My apologies Gents, turns out I was thinking of the "Filter Points" option above