A few days ago we pulled a long day that involved two jobs. We finished the Beverly Hills job around 1 PM then headed over the hills and down into the valley to the second one in Burbank.
After a lunch of Philly Cheesesteak sandwiches we went to the site. It was a simple survey to do. The site was 200 feet north of a C/L angle point that was fully documented. It hinged to another documented intersection where the centerline of the street we were working on did a 0.43' jog and continued heading north.
All we had to do was get the north and south control monuments up, wiggle in, shoot two distances and start locating a single family residence at the south lot line for a zoning setback certification so an addition could be built. I set two front lead/tag offsets on the
lot lines produced and three monuments in the rear yard on a five foot offset line for the contractor and city inspector. Piece of cake, we finished before 5 PM.
Something was bothering me though.
The foundation line clearance was one inch shy of being at a five foot setback and the owner had an old map that showed the foundation line being exatcly five feet away from PL. The city had just placed a new concrete walk a few days prior to our arrival and had destroyed any monuments that may have been in place. I advised the owner to argue the point with the city stating that the new walk construction could have taken out monuments that may have placed the foundation line at the five foot setback line and not one inch shy of it.
The following day, with a rested mind, I went through the records in the area and discovered that the C/L tie notes that showed the jog in my streets C/L had been reversed as to their location to the two monuments.
Tie notes we used
We were on Orchard (South) so we targeted the one shown for the south centerline. We had a 5 inch skew in the survey.
Corrected Tie Notes
This is what I have prepared for filing so as to kill this error. It's about time, it's been going on for six years now.
With the correction in place I found the missing inch and the foundation line is indeed on a five foot setback like the owners old map shows. I did have to go back the day I found this mistake and knock a few hubs over that were in the rear yard, but that's just part of the game.
Now what? Did some newer houses on the west side lose their setback based on the corrected centerline?
> Now what? Did some newer houses on the west side lose their setback based on the corrected centerline?
I don't understand what you are asking Adam? Read the post again.
Paul,
Maybe I don't understand. I am looking at "The following day, with a rested mind, I went through the records in the area and discovered that the C/L tie notes that showed the jog in my streets C/L had been reversed as to their location to the two monuments."
I am wondering if there were any houses staked on the other side of the road based on the wrong centerline tie notes. If there were, I could imagine that your corrected centerline tie could screw those up.
> I am wondering if there were any houses staked on the other side of the road based on the wrong centerline tie notes. If there were, I could imagine that your corrected centerline tie could screw those up.
Short story about the original C/L notes. It was drafted wrong. If someone did use the incorrect C/L notes and laid a house out or defined a setback or set monuments then all of that work is OFF. My corrected CL notes could never screw up anything in that area.
Paul,
I didn't mean a personal attack, or to imply that you did anything wrong.
I guess it is just something I wonder about. Every time a see multiple section corners, property corners, or that sort of thing, I think about the fact that there are probably property corners that were set in reliance to that/those wrong corners.
>I didn't mean a personal attack
It was not taken that way. I thought you just mis read a bit. If someone did use the wrong monument heading north, or south for that matter, then there is error in their work that diminishes as they go farther away from the intersection. I'm just glad that I caught it the next day.
Some records simply need to be red stamped ERRORS ON PAGE or simply ripped out and discarded.
