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I needed to finish a 960 acre survey by tomorrow. The property was being split along a Creek into 700 and 260 acres. The client informed us thursday about it and wanted the COS ready today with the final legal. Big hurry and a really good client so dropped everything else. Finished the corner staking yesterday and finishing up the COS and legal today. I was talking to the LS who was checking the plat and mentioned I didn't understand how this would work since at least some of the property is under a conservation easement (but, this client is very informed about title issues and wasn't asking us to figure the particulars out).

He said that they can't split it if it's under a conservation easement. Everyone involved knows there is this easement, but it strted bugging me. So I called the title person to ask how that worked; did we need to show it on the plat, does it include all the property, ect.?

An hour later I'm getting emails and phone calls. Stop, stop with the COS. They can't split the property. If they buy it they have to buy it all. Continue the work but no split. So no COS and now I might have to survey all the property on the other side of the water; but, it's not going to be a rush. They have to rework the agreement.

Guess I'm not working late tonite afterall.
And I don't have to come at 5:00.
Feels like a little vacation.

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 4:00 pm
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Sounds like you did a good job by not assuming that everyone knew what was going on. You saved your client and yourself some time and money, and got more work for yourself in the process. Well done!

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 4:13 pm
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What is a COS?

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 5:14 pm
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Cosine?
Certificate of survey?

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 5:17 pm
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I'm not taking credit for this one. If I hadn't talked to the other LS (he's done a number of them) I wouldn't have called. He wasn't up to speed on the easement. We get a few every year and we all point to his office to anyone who comes in with one.

There ways around it, but from what I understand it's expensive.

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 5:18 pm
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Certificate of survey?

Yes, they need one to do the property division.

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 5:20 pm
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haha...Cosine...I almost posted that.

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 5:27 pm
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I've been checking a COS for a conservation easement- nearly 300 ac. The underlying fee is 4 seperately held tracts of varying size, meaning 4 seperate owners, in 2 different townships.

But the cons. easement is 1 easement across (Portions of) them all.

My question was wouldn't it be better to do 4 seperate cons. easement for the same foot print? Apparently the planners (my client) wasn't concerned, the submitting surveyor didn't change it. so that's how it's going thru.

I'm thinking down the road someone will be wishing this had been better done...

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 5:47 pm
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I've been roped into checking a few.

They can sure get longwinded.

One of those tasks you need to sit down and work, shut the door and turn off the phone until you get through it.

Of course, that never works out.

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 6:06 pm
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gotta love 100 shots along a feature +/- 30 feet apart bearings to the second and distance to the .01'......

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 6:13 pm
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I had a river survey this summer. The east boundary was a call for the river, so when we got it located I went along it and designed a line to the nearest degree and nearest five foot for each segment. It made it so much simpler to check and draw that way.

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 6:47 pm
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Mighty Moe For President!!!!

YOU ARE MY HERO!

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 7:06 pm
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Mighty Moe For President!!!!

So a COS is a Certificate of Survey? This must pertain to a survey in Montana and Montana law? Right? We take so much for granted in using generalized terms, it makes it hard on us who are handicapped or challenged by simple issues.

B-)
Pablo

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 7:31 pm
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Pablo

You're up, downloading plats!

I'm so used to seeing COS used, it's second nature at this point.

These people had tried to transfer the property a few weeks ago and the county said not so fast, you need a Certificate of Survey to do that.

So some frantic calls to us, a long meeting on thursday and no one thought out the easement issue. The only guy who would have jumped right on it was the one who didn't know about it.

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 7:52 pm
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Pablo- at least "COS" makes sense...

think about the Washington alternative...--- what in the world is a "SHORT PLAT"

[sarcasm]and besides everyone wishes they could survey in Montana. Rumor has it there's a guy in Austin just itching for an opportunity to measure a zenith angle less than 89^30'00.00" 😛 [/sarcasm]

 
Posted : 12/12/2012 8:53 pm
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