Today with the longer antenna it didn't disconnect or even lag once. I only got as far as 160m but there was a lot of houses, vehicles and people around probably with lots of electronic devices.?ÿ
My experience with this setup over the last month is that if it lags it's most likely going to fail to shoot. When this happens walking back towards the robot is the only solution.?ÿ
Now I'm still trying different windows updates to try to sort out the display crash in Fieldgenius and extreme battery usage when connected. I did a bunch of updates last night and it only made the display crashing worse and I got a bsod once early in the am.?ÿ
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I tried the Allegro 2. It was a complete fail. I got the Parani's paired with it but the 15 year old cpu technology couldn't even handle a backsight. 3207 points in one of my usual subdivisions. Not even any linework for me to see where I'm going and it just choked constantly. I don't know how juniper systems got away with ripping off the survey community for so long selling complete garbage like this.?ÿ
It kept disconnecting on me and I'm not sure if it was the range or the fact that the cpu couldn't keep up with me putting in the occupy point and backsight point but at least we've ruled out windows 10 being any worse than an old windows mobile DC.?ÿ
That was a 265M backsight. I tried several times. As soon as I put in the setup points and hit accept it would take several seconds to redraw the main screen, then disconnect and and reconnect jumping back to sideshot mode again. Then I would attempt putting the backsight points in again and repeat the failure. These derelict data collectors aren't worth anything these days, I don't understand the price they sell for online.?ÿ
Anyway after 5 tries I put the Parani back in the Panasonic tablet and it connected and got my backsight first try. There wasn't a lot in the way, so I suspect the problem with the Allegro 2 was not the Bluetooth range but the fact that it couldn't handle the number of points in the upload so it kept glitching it out.?ÿ
I've noticed a common theme on your threads relating to this issue.
Not asking your boss for equipment you need is making the decision for him. That wouldn't make me happy.
Quit costing him money trying to save him money.
Screwing around with equipment slows down productivity which can add up to thousands over time.
I think you're reading into this completely wrong. Are you suggesting I ask for a new robot or a new radio handle?
FYI, he's still paying for the Sokkia ix that's been shelved since I've gotten the Leica working better than it was at least. He has to replace another crews old Sokkia SRX that may have actually died yesterday. That guy is now going to have to use the iX until his new equipment gets purchased.?ÿ
I have a reputation for getting a lot of work done in a day despite being by myself so I don't think they are going to understand me asking for new equipment. I understand that nothing is perfect and I wish I could go back and change the name of this thread because I was in a bad mood when I posted it. The Parani's seem to be a good product. I'm just dealing with an assortment of Fieldgenius glitches (which I'm spending time dealing with them to try to fix), occasional lack of Bluetooth range due to busy areas with objects and devices nearby.?ÿ
Doing construction for 12 hours a day means I have a lot of setups. My equipment may work perfectly without issue for 4-6 hours in a day and then have the occasional glitch but sometimes when it acts up and someone is about to pull up and block your line....that could cost you a lot of time. I
I don't see the problem with trying to make what I have work the best it possibly could??ÿ
It could be you're right about me reading this completely wrong or it could be we just see things differently.?ÿ No offense intended. Hell, I've offended myself at times.
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The thing is, the same personality trait (or disorder depending on how you look at it) that makes me get lots done and skip my lunch breaks etc...is the same thing that makes me frustrated every time something slows down my progress.?ÿ
I'm not saying my way is right...but it's easy to become a workaholic and just want to get as much quality work done as possible when the bosses show their appreciation.
All I'm doing on here is trying to benefit from others knowledge and experience to improve the equipment I'm using. It's really not slowing me down anywhere near as much as the Sokkia iX running Fieldgenius was and I dealt with that for over a year before they gave us Magnet Field to use. The boss didn't buy a new robot then and the issues were mentioned several times.?ÿ
Things are getting done much faster now which is why I don't feel comfortable asking for new equipment yet. I did hint at a new Leica in a year or so and he said sure. So that's something to look forward to.?ÿ
I notice a theme also. What type of construction layout are you doing at 300m from the gun? I don't like to go much farther than 100m from my robot to maintain accuracy within few mm.. On large job sites with distances that far from away, using instrument will create errors similar to RTK. Why not use GPS?
300m would be a backsight.?ÿ
Typically a foresight would not be more than 100m. And if it was that far I'd want a good long backsight.?ÿ
300m would be a backsight.?ÿ
Typically a foresight would not be more than 100m. And if it was that far I'd want a good long backsight.?ÿ
I guess if everyone sees a theme, I should just stop looking for help with issues and put up with the issues that I have and be happy that they aren't worse??ÿ
Remember that I don't own the company and it's not my money. I'm just trying to make things work the best I can. I was looking for advice on fixing technical issues and not what my demands should be.?ÿ
Assuming youuse a tripod w/ tribrach at the backsight. Why would you need the Bluetooth to reach the backsight 300m away?
I would only be doing that if I was going to be staying set up at the occupy point for a bit Instead of just setting another point to move to....or if my Bluetooth range was not enough to backsight with the pole the way everyone else here does.?ÿ
It's just construction layout and not high precision layout or traversing through the woods.?ÿ
But as I said I was having issues with the connection at less than 60m occasionally, but the second long antenna so far seems to have fixed that. Having to set up a tripod and tribrach for a foresight for the type of work I'm doing would be complete overkill and a waste of time.?ÿ
If we're going to start critiquing my procedures for the construction layout I should mention that I use a bipod (the legal crews don't even do that here), keep my pole checked and adjusted, shoot 2 faces on all control points and am super anal about centering of the instrument and the prism compared to others. Don't forget the old "survey to the degree of accuracy required".?ÿ
What are you staking?
Why not RTK?
I have occasionally used GPS for staking for excavation (precision required is 0.10m) but the boss is not comfortable using it for pinning houses. Our tolerance is 0.010m on pinnings, when I do nails on footings I shoot for 0.005 on each corner.?ÿ
I use the base and rover only when I have no line of sight between any control points or do a site localization. Then I either set up on a known good point or do a localization.?ÿ
Or if I'm on the occasional job out in the country that nobody else has been to yet. With all the subdivision layout these days that is rare, so my GPS gets used once every two or 3 weeks.?ÿ
