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DavidALee
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Are you speaking of indexing? That was really what I was referring to. We figured out an index error which was applied to the 10 ch for the south half.


 
Posted : October 13, 2012 10:56 am
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I don't refer to it as indexing......it is proportioning all parenthetical distances.


 
Posted : October 13, 2012 11:07 am
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Give me a few minutes. I am going to refer back to an exercise we completed in that class and post it here to see if we are talking about the same thing.


 
Posted : October 13, 2012 11:10 am
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example

Check out pages 9 & 10 specifically.


 
Posted : October 13, 2012 11:21 am
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I didn't check any of your calculations, but seems all ok and is proportioning.

But I did not see any 10.00 held and not proportioned.


 
Posted : October 13, 2012 11:30 am

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No there wasn't. When subdivided, the 10 ch would have been proportioned and held for the southern half of the lot. The remainder would have been given to the north half.

Am I wrong there? Am I getting mixed up on something? Like I said, I work primarily in M&B states. Anything I've worked with in PLSS has been in Ohio and I haven't had to deal with these type of lots, except in class.


 
Posted : October 13, 2012 11:34 am
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I think we are saying the same thing.

That is, the 10.00 chains would have been proportioned against, the same as the rest of the fractional distance.


 
Posted : October 13, 2012 11:49 am
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:good:


 
Posted : October 13, 2012 11:51 am
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Easy, First Set Eleven Monuments

Just the beginning Evan.

Twist it any way you want but if you follow the money you will find the real reason for addl certs to do your job. And there are companies out there trying to add to those special certs to increase their revenue as we write.

CE's in CA now need special cert/training to do SWPPPs, mandated by the State water board not the CE LS licensing board. 3 day $600 course, +$125 to take the test. 2 tries then you have to take the course again. Have to take the course and test every 2 years. See how money talks. Plus 3days at $800/day = $2400 in lost wages unless you work for the govt.

The $1,200.00 is just the down payment on this certification. Expect to spend approximately $250.00 each year on the Continuing Education courses which you can only purchase through CFedS. Tell me it's not about the money and I will die laughing.


 
Posted : October 13, 2012 3:24 pm
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Serious Question for Very Odd Lots

What happens when the Lot is not at least 10.00 chains deep? You can't give the first 10.00 to the south half as you would have a negative north half.

What if the Lot is more than 20.00 deep? Especially if you are looking for the north one-quarter of the Lot.

How would you do the same thing for a river lot?

When does a fraction of a lot become too small to treat as described by Keith?

We have Lots that fall adjacent to Indian Treaty Lines that are a half-mile in length yet only a few hundred feet deep. How would you determine the north half/south half of that Lot?


 
Posted : October 13, 2012 5:33 pm

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Serious Question for Very Odd Lots

Lots of questions, but need some sketches as to what you mean.

And obviously, there are any number of problems with lots against water boundaries.


 
Posted : October 13, 2012 5:38 pm
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Serious Question for Very Odd Lots

I agree that there are plenty of places where the further subdivision of fractional lots can be continued only so far.

I've got a project 15N - 4W and the north tier of lots is only 20 chains N-S, total.

I'm assuming that the rational would be to try and obtain 'standard' acreages as far as practically possible.

For example if there wasn't enough distance to get a 20 acres "S/2" of a lot, I guess you'd try for 5 chains and create a 10 acre subdivision.

IMHO though, this is all conjecture to me. The GLO only took it so far. Everything that has occurred after the property was patented is generally what we retrace.

Not all the further subdivisions of sections (after patent) were performed "by the book." That is where we, as private surveyors, apply our skills. I believe we have a far more complex task in retracements and weighing descriptions, evidence, monuments, occupation and the bona-fide rights of our clients.

Wouldn't it be nice to work in a world where everything belonged to the sovereign and if we didn't like what we found we could just perform a "resurvey"? :snarky:


 
Posted : October 13, 2012 7:38 pm
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