Hey Dave,
Long time!!
I know what you mean by some surveyors marking monuments for one side only where in fact it should be common?
An argument I have had for a long time with those who only use the protracted section center lines as evidence and reject all existing monumentation.
Keith
Hello Keith, hope all is well with you.
now the Astaire-Crosby masterpiece Holiday Inn is on the TV.
Not an Okey thing, it's a R.O.W. thing.?ÿ They don't want the monuments or coordinates to be confused as controlling elements. In their suggested description, there are no possibility of conflict in the future.?ÿ In case of a future dispute over the location of the section lines/title lines, there can be no argument that the description stops at some monument or coordinate.
Working on one right now where the R.O.W. misses the PL by about 7 feet.?ÿ But the monuments set after the fact do not control, nor does the coordinate, and neither are mentioned in the description just in case this happens.?ÿ Unfortunately, the utility company used the DOT coordinate in their subsequent description of an easement to relocate the poles, which could raise questions about their easement location, but I'm treating it as I do the R.O.W. description.?ÿ Still, I wish that coordinate call was not in there as it is the most definite and easily located part of the description, which normally would have to be controlling. Should not be two clear as day intentions, that might in the future come into conflict, expressed in one deed.?ÿ
On the other hand, it sounds like in your case a complete and thorough survey of the entire parent tract was done, which is not like a typical route survey that doesn't necessarily find the true sidelines of all the parcels it travels through.?ÿ But title company is probably just following "standard" right of way description practice.
Lets not start this ROW monuments thing again. Some of your statements have been heavily disputed in a few very long threads here.?ÿ?ÿ
Really??ÿ Must be why the teacher never calls on me even when my hands up:)
Additional comment.
In fact these surveyors would reject a private survey monument that may be a few links away from their measured point, reject it and set a new monument for the corner of a 1/4/1/4 section!
And of course leave the existing monument to confuse everybody.
Keith
Hey Keith,
What are these links you speak of? Good to hear from you!
LB
Quick frozen sausage links precisely 0.66 feet in length. ?ÿWe use these frequently in PLSSia. ?ÿDon't taste worth a darn, though, after being drug all over Hell and Creation. ?ÿ ??ÿ ??ÿ ??ÿ
line bender,
I don't have any links to the example that I mention; only memory of reading official BLM field notes.
Upon reading your post again, I completely misread your "links" comment!! I surveyed in chains and links.
As I recall, the example was the subdividing of a section to determine the boundaries of the SW1/4SW1/4 and the section was subdivided using only the protracted center lines as evidence of the boundaries.
The section had been previously subdivided by a private surveyor and his monuments were ignored.
The SW1/4 was subdivided and of course the center lines were run at the record of the protracted center lines.
At the center of the SW1/4 an existing monument was found and ignored.
A bright shiny brass cap on a pipe was set a few links away and was meant to be a boundary marker of the SW1/4SW1/4.
One can only imagine what the local landowners thought?
Keith
Keith
I could say something like the land owners thought why hire surveyors at all if they never get the same answer but that might start a 5 year 55,000 view thread so I won't.?ÿ
