Are property dimensions measured from lot pin to lot pin? Is the distance from the middle of the road to the first lot pin figured into the lot dimensions?
Thank you
Jeff,retired
Brown Deer, Wi.
Milwaukee county
That varies widely by year (1850, 1900, 1950, 2000, etc), State, County, City. There is no standard answer. A local Surveyor should be an expert on interpreting your plat.
Thank you Dave.
I have a csm from 1958 and a plat of survey in 1972 when the house was built. The dimensions on these surveys match the uniform residential report when we bought the house in 1996 and subsequent refinancing. The diagrams identify the 4 lot pins. The diagrams do not show a solid line from the middle of the road to the furthest lot pin. The distance is written in feet and in latitude and longitude BETWEEN
The lot pins. The building inspection dept in our village could not answer my question even when presented with a csm we received when we bought the house.
The reason for the question is 9 ---50/60 ft tall Norway spruce trees are going to be clear cut by a transmission co. Depending on lot lines.
My neighbor also stands to lose 9 trees.
Thank you
Jeff, retired
The distance from the center of the road to the first lot pin should be 1/2 of the right-of-way width. When I draw a plat, the center of my symbol for a set or found pin is centered up on the lot corner, so the indicated distance should be from center of pin to center of pin.
The numbers on your plat are probably not latitude and longitude, but rather bearing or azimuth of the line.
It may not be the case on your lot, but it is common, especially in rural or formerly rural areas, to nominally own to the center of the road but an easement for the roadway and (often) utilities is reserved so you don't have much control over that part. Does the plat show an easement along that side?
Do you know where any of the corner monuments are to be able to approximately measure from them? Your measurements won't be authoritative, but may help explain the situation.
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That subject line should catch the eye of a few Wisconsinite's that frequent this board regularly.
The exact answer will probably depend on exactly where you are located.
In my State, city lots start at the edge of the city street while rural lots start at what may be the center of the road, if the road was constructed with the center line following a section line or aliquot line. However, as mentioned by others, this can vary from location to location.
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Jeff, please send a copy of the map you have to me at [email protected] and I should be able to answer your question or direct to the person who can.
Thank you to all who have responded.
It would be so much easier showing one of the surveys.
The csm shows the feet and " S.89 degree 57' 36"E " For each side of the lot .
The csm states Csm of part of the SW 1/4 of sec 12, T.8 N., R.21E in the village of brown deer.
The csm identifies lot 1 ( my property ). And lot 2, my neighbor to the south.
The corner arcs are of sw corner of lot 2.. Nw corner of lot 1....ne corner of lot 1 and se corner of lot 2.
The arcs on the e lot lines are from center of roadway to lot line.
Additionally, there is an established distance from the middle of the road to the lot pin. 24.75 ft. And also
A distance from the middle of the road to ( what is described as) "established width" 45 ft.
Thanks again,
Jeff, retired
Thanks to all who have responded,
There appears to be latitude and longitude. Such as S. 89 degree 57' 36 E. Etc
Thank you
Jeff
S 89°57'36" E is a direction bearing that is 3min off of EAST.
A latitude would read 32°15'34"N
A longitude would read 94°35'48"W
The lines on the drawing would have terminal points at the corners of the lot. They may or may not reach the middle of the road.
Most of the time the Bearing and Distance are centered between these terminal points.
Post a shot of the drawing if possible.
There will be less guessing after that.
Sounds like you have ownership to the center of a 49.5 ft or 3 rod road. (A Rod is an old unit of measure commonly used by surveyors. Rods were often used to determine the width of a road with 1 rod being equal to 16.5 ft). The portion of your lot that is within the public road is half of that width or 24.75 ft and is subject to the rights of the public in said road right-of-way. I have not seen the survey, so these are assumptions I am making based on experience.
The others were right about the numbers along the property lines being the bearings and distances. That will tell you the direction and the length of the line respectively.
> Thanks to all who have responded,
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> There appears to be latitude and longitude. Such as S. 89 degree 57' 36 E. Etc
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> Thank you
> Jeff
That is a BEARING. It is a line that BEARS 89d 57m 36s EAST of DUE SOUTH. (Also meaning that it is 0d 2m 24s South of DUE EAST) We only use numbers up to 90 and in 4 quadrants NE, SE, SW and NW.
These your surveys?
http://mkeplats.milwaukeecounty.org/Plat_Scan_Docs/T08_R21_S12/8-21-12-3-0028.pdf
http://mkeplats.milwaukeecounty.org/Plat_Scan_Docs/T08_R21_S12/8-21-12-3-0146.pdf
http://mkeplats.milwaukeecounty.org/Plat_Scan_Docs/T08_R21_S12/8-21-12-3-0147.pdf
Milwaukee County GIS is a pretty good resource:
http://lio.milwaukeecounty.org/mcamlis/
These your surveys?
Thank you to all the people who responded. What an awesome group.
jeff, retired