0.8?? Below the road surface. Following in the footsteps of the late Johnny Garrison, NC PLS L-1347
It's down there alright...?ÿ Down below 0.8' of asphalt just to get to the top of the lid!
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Went down about six feet to find a section corner based on the location of a railroad track and the tree that had swallowed a spike set about 30 years previously.?ÿ Found it.?ÿ All digging by hand.?ÿ A few inches of road gravel and the remainder was fill dirt placed to facilitate getting vehicles over the railroad tracks.?ÿ The tracks had been elevated to roughly the edge of the flood plain for a long stretch, including this county road crossing.?ÿ Peaceful work as this is a very low traffic area and the corner was about three feet from the edge of the roadbed.?ÿ It was January, so the work kept us warm.
I once worked with a party chief who always did everything to excess.?ÿ He gave instructions to the crew to find a buried 2"x2" redwood stake by telling the instrument man the angle to turn off the backsight and the distance to the head chainman as "Seventy-three -oh-five", rather precise for digging a hole I thought.?ÿ After searching and digging down over four feet and not finding it, they reported the non result to the chief.?ÿ He verified the angle and its double was correct and that the distance was "70.305" (?).?ÿ Oops.?ÿ
@dave-lindell I can only imagine the reaction.
I would have said 70 feet.?ÿ Absolutely no need for any decimals when you are doing something so crude in the first place.
Yep, even if there is ground level monumentation in place.?ÿ
I hate people that don't put in a ground level monument and just throw the dirt back in.
- Hate is pretty strong. How about detest?
I hate people that don't put in a ground level monument and just throw the dirt back in.
I'm confused, would you clarify in "surveying" talk a different solution? ?????ÿ
@skeeter1996 How about "have no respect for shortsighted surveyors"?
My favorite story along this line came from my late father, KS RLS 82.?ÿ In the Depression in 1930's, the WPA would make surveyors and engineers available on a county by county basis to look for cornerstones and when found, set small concrete markers in the rural road quadrants as witnesses. However, no metal placed over,at or near the stone found.?ÿ A KS State Highway Commission crew (of which my late father was a chief) in the early 1960's cut the ties and began to hand dig in sandy fill in Western KS.?ÿ At a depth of about 3 feet they hit something, a mason jar. They managed to retrieve it without breaking it.?ÿ Inside was a note that said "Dig you SOB's we had to. Half way there." It was signed by 4 people. ?ÿ As promised they found the stone 3 more feet deep. When they covered the stone, the SHC crew members all signed and dated the note, resealed the jar and placed the jar in the hole at 3 feet.?ÿ The SHC set a surface rebar when fully covered.?ÿ True or not, it's a good story.
I had a boss that had a backhoe. He use to say, "We may not find it, but nobody else will,"
Here's some more punishment:
3 corners within 4'.
Depths: 0.8', 1.5', 1.8'.
You are making my back hurt from looking at the effort required.
Centerline monument found during recent property boundary retracement; county survey department didn't think it was necessary to set a monument close to the surface when they changed the profile of the road. I set a monument 0.5 feet below the surface.
Smartphone cameras are sure a bonus in these situations.
Owww! My back hurts again.
I had a boss that had a backhoe. He use to say, "We may not find it, but nobody else will,"
My backhoe story.?ÿ Was working for the County on a bridge replacement project?ÿ in a truly rural area which involved a major realignment and therefore R/W acquisition/abandonment paperwork.?ÿ The descriptions were all PLSS except for some natural calls to the river.?ÿ A diligent search for all record PLSS monuments within more than a mile of the bridge site came up empty.?ÿ We expanded our search to several miles N/S & E/W and found one original PLSS stone 2 miles south.?ÿ We worked north desperately for any monument so we could "Proportion" in the Section Corner nearest the bridge site to hang our hats on.?ÿ The County road veered NE about 2 miles north but there was an unimproved road continuing North along the section line into "sand blow" country with an ancient fenced intersection at 3 miles.?ÿ Sure enough we poked around and found old fencing buried which matched the record location of the original C/L where there should be a record stone.?ÿ We're talking +-20-30' search coordinates here.
After a day of digging down 5 feet and not uncovering a single stone my spidey sense told me that stone's gotta be down there and is key.?ÿ So I cashed some chips in with the maintenance guys and convinced them to show up with a backhoe one morning, charge it to "ditch maintenance" and dig that intersection up.?ÿ It was easy digging and soon they'd gotten to the limits of their backhoe reach (15'+-) without hitting a single stone.?ÿ Thank God OSHA wasn't there.?ÿ Anyway it was a complete failure and a few weeks later I got called on the carpet and told never to mess with maintenance activities again.
For those that care the owners on both sides of the river agreed to the new alignment without reference to their boundaries, only compensation for the loss of tillable acreage on one side of the river and the gain on the other side due to the realignment.?ÿ Thank God for lawyers and the simple fact that a brand new County bridge greatly improved their holdings.
@mike-marks bummer. ?ÿGood effort. ?ÿWin some, lose some.