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In my opinion, most ethical rules are also principles of enlightened self interest.

 
Posted : 30/12/2016 12:43 pm
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Just out of curiosity, I did a little research on ancestry.com to see how many of the farmers with German surnames who bought land from the Scottish banker R.L. Brown around the turn of the 20th century were German immigrants. Henry Ahlhardt told the census taker that he had been born in Germany and that his first language was German, as did August Piepenbrink, seen here with his wife Emma (Bettge) Piepenbrink and a few of the kids they untimately produced. Rod and Cap No. 222 that began this thread was set to replace the remains of a very old, rotted cedar stake that I judged to mark the corner of the land conveyed to Mr. Piepenbrink. This photo would have been taken in about 1901, judging by the ages of the children who appear in it and how old their ages were reported to the census taker in 1900.

 
Posted : 31/12/2016 5:51 am
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[USER=3]@Kent McMillan[/USER]

Cripes Kent, your Survey Plats are definitely ‰ÛÏeye candy‰Û, very nice, extremely thorough. One question though, in the first pdf there is a statement on the gas line easement running diagonally within the parcel. Will ‰ÛÏAPPROXIMATE CENTERLINE‰Û suffice with respect to the location of a potentially explosive pipeline?

 
Posted : 31/12/2016 6:56 am
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FL/GA PLS., post: 406772, member: 379 wrote: [USER=3]@Kent McMillan[/USER]

Cripes Kent, your Survey Plats are definitely ‰ÛÏeye candy‰Û, very nice, extremely thorough. One question though, in the first pdf there is a statement on the gas line easement running diagonally within the parcel. Will ‰ÛÏAPPROXIMATE CENTERLINE‰Û suffice with respect to the location of a potentially explosive pipeline?

It would for the purposes of title insurance. In the accompanying report, I explained that the "approximate centerline" was simply the line defined by the visible pipeline markers (that the pipeline company typically places centered over their buried pipeline), but that before construction that company should be requested to locate and mark the pipeline.

That was done before I later made a topographic survey of the tract and it did in fact turn out that the "approximate centerline" was a pretty good representation of the location of the line.

 
Posted : 31/12/2016 7:00 am
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FL/GA PLS., post: 406772, member: 379 wrote: [USER=3]@Kent McMillan[/USER].

Cripes Kent, your Survey Plats are definitely ‰ÛÏeye candy‰Û, very nice, extremely thorough. One question though, in the first pdf there is a statement on the gas line easement running diagonally within the parcel. Will ‰ÛÏAPPROXIMATE CENTERLINE‰Û suffice with respect to the location of a potentially explosive pipeline?

When I read(skimmed) the attached Survey Report, I believe that was addressed upfront with bold type

 
Posted : 31/12/2016 7:01 am
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I'm unfortunately the type "a" personality, I'll skim something and if a subject jumps at me I run with it. After I have made some comment, valid or not, I'll go back th the item and re-read it only to find out that I should have kept quiet in the first place. That's why we always have a tech and 2 PLS's check any work that leaves our office. Thank you for pointing that out. 🙂

 
Posted : 31/12/2016 7:12 am
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FL/GA PLS., post: 406781, member: 379 wrote: [USER=378]@Robert Hill[/USER]

I'm unfortunately the type "a" personality, I'll skim something and if a subject jumps at me I run with it. After I have made some comment, valid or not, I'll go back th the item and re-read it only to find out that I should have kept quiet in the first place. That's why we always have a tech and 2 PLS's check any work that leaves our office. Thank you for pointing that out. 🙂

No big deal. I always put a "call before you dig notice with contact information "on plats to give notice to everyone with intentions to dig or build. I assume all
states have a One Call agency.
Addressing it in the survey report to interested parties, I guess would be another layer of protection of the public and liability.

 
Posted : 31/12/2016 7:29 am
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Robert Hill, post: 406778, member: 378 wrote: When I read(skimmed) the attached Survey Report, I believe that was addressed upfront with bold type

It wasn't the first item in the report (I usually try to discuss things in the approximate order of priority that I think they merit), but it was mentioned:

These days, I prefer underlining sentences, clauses, or phrases instead of bolding, which I reserve for section headings and titles.

 
Posted : 31/12/2016 8:02 am
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By the way, it was only a few years later when I realized that it was much more useful to provide a separate list of coordinates on both the map and the written description because that way the entire list could be digitized either by cut-and-paste or OCR scanning. Since it was also easier as well as working better, I've never gone back.

 
Posted : 31/12/2016 8:17 am
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The R.L. Brown who was the person from whom all of the (mostly German) farmers bought the tracts shown upon my map was Robert L. Brown, the vice-president of City National Bank, who with his brother, J. Gordon Brown, were the proprietors of Brown Brothers, land mortgage bankers, with offices over the City National Bank at 614 Congress Avenue. Mr. Brown was a sojourner, having emmigrated to the United States at age 40 in 1885. Both he and his parents were born in Scotland and he is buried there.

The parents of his wife, Mary Eliza Brown, were English although she herself was born in India, or, actually, aboard the ship "Minerva" near Calcutta, India.

 
Posted : 31/12/2016 9:12 am
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Kent McMillan, post: 406791, member: 3 wrote:

There's that "either side" term again. Seems like a perfectly valid description to me, if properly stated.

 
Posted : 31/12/2016 10:05 am
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Andy Nold, post: 406806, member: 7 wrote: There's that "either side" term again. Seems like a perfectly valid description to me, if properly stated.

I got out the file again and looked at the deed by which the right-of-way for the pipeline was originally granted. While in the instrument, the strip is described as:

"a permanent right of way and easement twenty (20') feet in width, being ten (10') feet on each side of the centerline thereof as filnally located for the purposes of ... ",

obviously, I didn't think that a strip of land that I described as "20 ft. in width, 10 ft. to either side of the centerline" could be understood to be other than the same thing.

 
Posted : 31/12/2016 12:47 pm
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Agreed. And case law supports your point.

 
Posted : 31/12/2016 2:16 pm
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