Has anyone had to deal with re-flagging an iron pipe that was clogged with dirt? I have because in my area (Northern VA) I have never used straight rebar used a property markers, but rather 18" iron pipes. I recently found some 12" plastic anchor screws at my local hardware store that I seem to find useful. I just tie some flagging around them, and stick them down inside a pipe when I set it to keep the dirt out and later when I need to re-flag it I just take it out, tie some new ribbon on it and put it back.
Why not use a typical plastic surveyor cap
Could have it stamped with "PROPERTY CORNER" or similar to identify it as such.
I've returned to many of my monuments to find that another surveyor had recapped and called theirs.
I could tell they were set by me because I do a few other preps to the rebar or pipe before they are set to identify them :restricted:
A Harris, post: 451876, member: 81 wrote: Why not use a typical plastic surveyor cap
Could have it stamped with "PROPERTY CORNER" or similar to identify it as such.
I've returned to many of my monuments to find that another surveyor had recapped and called theirs.
I could tell they were set by me because I do a few other preps to the rebar or pipe before they are set to identify them :restricted:
I can't for the life of me someone want to put their cap on someone else's monument
I wish there was a better way to plug pipes. The old school method of wood plugs is far more durable than the modern plastic plugs which deteriorate quickly and especially if exposed to sun. I've done some of the old fashioned redwood plug method but this is a bit time consuming.
A Harris, post: 451876, member: 81 wrote: Why not use a typical plastic surveyor cap
Could have it stamped with "PROPERTY CORNER" or similar to identify it as such.
I've returned to many of my monuments to find that another surveyor had recapped and called theirs.
I could tell they were set by me because I do a few other preps to the rebar or pipe before they are set to identify them :restricted:
I used to, but I ran into the exact same problem; caps missing, re-capped, other issues to the point where I started putting "do not disturb" on a lot of my stakes (pic below)
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Pine knots are among the best objects to plug pipes
RobertMS, post: 451873, member: 13052 wrote: Has anyone had to deal with re-flagging an iron pipe that was clogged with dirt?
I just tie the flagging around the pipe. Then it doesn't matter if the pipe is filled with dirt or not.
TXSurveyor, post: 451882, member: 6719 wrote: I can't for the life of me someone want to put their cap on someone else's monument
A lot depends on local laws and customs. In recording States it can be a way to more certainly identify a found monument for future Survetors. If I come upon a pipe it might be the right one, but a capped pipe tells me I'm there. In some places open pipes rot through very quickly. Capping slows the process.
As usual, it depends...
thebionicman, post: 451960, member: 8136 wrote: A lot depends on local laws and customs. In recording States it can be a way to more certainly identify a found monument for future Survetors. If I come upon a pipe it might be the right one, but a capped pipe tells me I'm there. In some places open pipes rot through very quickly. Capping slows the process.
As usual, it depends...
Interesting. It makes sense when you put it like that I was thinking more along the lines of someone putting their cap on a found rod with no cap
thebionicman, post: 451960, member: 8136 wrote: In some places open pipes rot through very quickly. Capping slows the process.
As usual, it depends...
Really? I've never seen that, what types of conditions? They'll deteriorate quicker with salt air next to ocean but will still last generations.
roger_LS, post: 451966, member: 11550 wrote: Really? I've never seen that, what types of conditions? They'll deteriorate quicker with salt air next to ocean but will still last generations.
I have seen one of the metal pipes corrode a lot faster because it was in a boggy area; always wet.
Jim Frame, post: 451958, member: 10 wrote: I just tie the flagging around the pipe. Then it doesn't matter if the pipe is filled with dirt or not.
Me too. I
RobertMS, post: 451873, member: 13052 wrote: Has anyone had to deal with re-flagging an iron pipe that was clogged with dirt? I have because in my area (Northern VA) I have never used straight rebar used a property markers, but rather 18" iron pipes. I recently found some 12" plastic anchor screws at my local hardware store that I seem to find useful. I just tie some flagging around them, and stick them down inside a pipe when I set it to keep the dirt out and later when I need to re-flag it I just take it out, tie some new ribbon on it and put it back.
Why cap it at all? You found it in the foot steps of others that had set it. I'm sure that your survey does not find it as balls on, show it on your plan/plat as found and show the offsets to it, then, if other corners are missing pin and cap them with your own brand based on your own resolution. Flag them up good but don't attach your name to something that was there before you.
This is just a way to prevent the pipes from getting filled with water, which causes corrosion.
TXSurveyor, post: 451962, member: 6719 wrote: Interesting. It makes sense when you put it like that I was thinking more along the lines of someone putting their cap on a found rod with no cap
I often place a cap or tag on found no tag pipes or rebar as a sign that I have accepted and held the monument. In this case the monument will be shown on a record of survey (public record) as a found pipe or rebar with no tag and stating that I set my cap. In CA all monuments are supposed to be tagged and it's been that way for 100 years. When I was working in Texas in the late 90s and early 2000s it seemed like many companies were just beginning to tag the rebars with RPLS numbers. Also no public records of surveys in TX so I suppose it doesn't really make sense there but if I was drafting field notes (legal description) and I wanted the found rebar with no tag to be distinguished from the other one 0.6' away from it I might call it a found rebar with a set plastic cap with my LS number
RobertMS, post: 451988, member: 13052 wrote: This is just a way to prevent the pipes from getting filled with water, which causes corrosion.
Ive found called for pipes from the 1860s
Lots when gas became popular, 1880s.
Filled with dirt, every one.
We use/find a lot of galvanized pipe in my area. It doesn't get much saltier than southeastern NC. I have never plugged a pipe other than to provide a temporary stable foundation for a tack in the center of a large diameter pipe. Except for those that come in direct contact with saltwater, galvanized pipe appear to last for a good long time.
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