Thanks Nate,
It's been a while. I remember having a back and forth discussion with Gene Kooper back in the days on the old RPLS, and he said he bought some Military surplus Gyros. I shared my experience with him and when I described the ones I used with the T-2 I told him the theodolite sat on the gyro and he said the gyro sat on the theodolite, we went back and forth for a while and he showed me a picture of this:

Which is the Wild T-16 with a GAK, to which I replied "That's not what I used", we used to have a T-2 mounted when we used the oil drum and the SIAGL apparently used a Kern, although I could have sworn it was a t-2 also. Either way they both sat on the gyro and not the other way around. I couldn't find any photos online in those days so I thought I was going crazy. I believe we're both correct because I think the British military uses The Gak.
Cheers,
Ralph
Ralph, you're correct- I made a mistake; the ABLE used the old-style T-2 while the North-Seeking Gyroscope (2nd version of the SIAGL) used the T-16.
Thank You Nate,
Happy Holidays!
Ralph
Hi,
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One day, a Surveyor from Mena Arkansas, walked across a WET log, and fell in. As his equipment fell in the water, I think it ALL became inertial. 🙂
N