AI Assistant
Notifications
Clear all

I knew it was bound to happen..old post revisited

10 Posts
5 Users
0 Reactions
276 Views
John Harmon
(@john-harmon)
Posts: 352
Member
Topic starter
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

A title examiner two doors down the street from my office dropped in today.
He showed me a document and said, "What do you think of this crazy instrument that went on record"? My reply was that I had been ranting about that for a week now on this forum.

The title company is working on the 5 acre cut-out that delivered to them last week. I posted a goofy easement that a local lawyer had prepared. Another title company is a bordering county is making the false assumption that maybe its conveying fee title, when it clearly states an easement. Goofy lawyer or his clerk screwed it up by calling it a GENERAL WARRANTY DEED FOR AN EASEMENT.
For those who did not see it before, her it is.....
My title guy thinks the lawyer should have to pay for fixing.


 
Posted : August 14, 2013 8:13 pm
Kent McMillan
(@kent-mcmillan)
Posts: 11416
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

> A title examiner two doors down the street from my office dropped in today.
> He showed me a document and said, "What do you think of this crazy instrument that went on record"?

This is Texas? It really isn't material what the title of the instrument is. What matters is what the instrument actually says. So look at the granting language that presumably on the next page. What does it say? I've seen quitclaim deeds labeled "Warranty Deed", but that doesn't make them other than quitclaim deeds.

On a larger point, one can give a general warranty of title in an estate less than fee simple, such as an easement, which is what I understand that deed to appear to attempt to do.


 
Posted : August 14, 2013 8:51 pm
Norman_Oklahoma
(@norman-oklahoma)
Posts: 8310
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

If you google "warranty deed for an easement" you will get several examples of such deeds from various parts of the country. I've never seen one before either, but it seems they are not unheard of.


 
Posted : August 14, 2013 9:58 pm
Kent McMillan
(@kent-mcmillan)
Posts: 11416
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

> If you google "warranty deed for an easement" you will get several examples of such deeds from various parts of the country. I've never seen one before either, but it seems they are not unheard of.

To be clear: in Texas practice the warranty of title applies only to the estate to be conveyed. If the instrument purports to convey an easement, then the warranty clause is a guaranty that the grantor owns the estate out of which the easement rights are to be conveyed and will indemnify the purchaser against any loss in the event that a defect or failure of the title to the estate (an easement in this case) appears.

See Section 743 in "Land Titles and Title Examination" in the Texas Practice series written by Fred Lange.


 
Posted : August 14, 2013 10:13 pm
jhframe
(@jim-frame)
Posts: 7465
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

> If the instrument purports to convey an easement, then the warranty clause is a guaranty that the grantor owns the estate out of which the easement rights are to be conveyed

Couldn't it also pertain to the situation in which an easement owner transfers the easement, warranting that he owns the easement being transferred?


 
Posted : August 14, 2013 11:31 pm

Kent McMillan
(@kent-mcmillan)
Posts: 11416
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

> Couldn't it also pertain to the situation in which an easement owner transfers the easement, warranting that he owns the easement being transferred?

Yes, certainly.


 
Posted : August 14, 2013 11:44 pm
John Harmon
(@john-harmon)
Posts: 352
Member
Topic starter
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

That wording on the instrument adds NOTHING, but confuses PLENTY.

JOhn Harmon


 
Posted : August 15, 2013 7:05 am
Kent McMillan
(@kent-mcmillan)
Posts: 11416
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

> That wording on the instrument adds NOTHING, but confuses PLENTY.

Well, what a warranty of title means is that a grantee can sue his grantor for breach of warranty in the event that there are defects in or failure of his title. It's a pretty big deal if money has changed hands.


 
Posted : August 15, 2013 9:51 am
John Harmon
(@john-harmon)
Posts: 352
Member
Topic starter
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

No money changed hands. Mother was grantor of easement.
Just a case of an unexperienced lawyer.
Now I am waiting for the tax district to start taxing the two mile easement as if it was purchased because all they will see is the word WARRANTY DEED. I will post when it happens.


 
Posted : August 15, 2013 11:22 am
a-harris
(@a-harris)
Posts: 8759
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

In Texas, my understanding is that an instrument pertaining to the transfer of real property or usage of real property must mention that money ($10) or other monetary amounts and in the case of family often mentioned as "$10 and loving affection" was exchanged on any real property transaction for the transfer to be legal, whether or not it actually happened.
0.02


 
Posted : August 15, 2013 11:33 pm