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(@stephen-a-calder)
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> Well, what other reason makes any sense considering that failure to adequately research a survey is probably the primary cause of serious mistakes in boundary determinations?

I dispute this statement entirely, with the knowledge that what you mean by "adequately research" is to research each line of the parcel back to creation. There are plenty of times when it's necessary. Usually, it's not.

Stephen

 
Posted : December 15, 2013 9:11 am
(@dave-karoly)
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I think this stems from the weird Texas system of modifying title descriptions by adding survey data to them.

Texas obstinately refuses to adopt the better system of filing Survey maps into the public record. 😉

 
Posted : December 15, 2013 9:37 am
(@kent-mcmillan)
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> I think this stems from the weird Texas system of modifying title descriptions by adding survey data to them.
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> Texas obstinately refuses to adopt the better system of filing Survey maps into the public record.

LOL! The California variation of the question would be whether the last record of survey map on a parcel and those of the adjoiners would be all that a surveyor would ever want to have when resurveying a parcel of land. Naturally, it goes without saying that if all that matters is the most recent record of survey, then all those earlier maps can be shredded as a further simplication of the California system. :>

 
Posted : December 15, 2013 9:51 am
(@dave-karoly)
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A picture is worth a thousand words.

 
Posted : December 15, 2013 12:04 pm
(@rj-schneider)
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Well that sure struck me last night as important enough to post.
You know one good reason to gather the older deeds and surveys, they actually are retraceable. Man! have I ever found some cool stuff surveying!

 
Posted : December 15, 2013 1:33 pm
(@peter-ehlert)
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> ...the last record of survey map on a parcel and those of the adjoiners would be all that a surveyor would ever want to have when resurveying a parcel of land...

who said something as silly as that?

 
Posted : December 15, 2013 5:14 pm
(@kent-mcmillan)
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> > ...the last record of survey map on a parcel and those of the adjoiners would be all that a surveyor would ever want to have when resurveying a parcel of land...
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> who said something as silly as that?

Oh, so you need to examine previous records of surveys? Is there some reason for that? :>

 
Posted : December 15, 2013 5:39 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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Posted : December 15, 2013 5:51 pm
(@peter-ehlert)
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> > > ...the last record of survey map on a parcel and those of the adjoiners would be all that a surveyor would ever want to have when resurveying a parcel of land...
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> > who said something as silly as that?
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> Oh, so you need to examine previous records of surveys? Is there some reason for that? :>

Resurveys are opinions.
humans are fallible...

New divisions (original surveys) have exterior boundaries... also opinions.

[yes, you are pulling my chain, yet again]

 
Posted : December 15, 2013 6:25 pm
(@mattharnett)
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You have to dig in the records and dig in the ground. The deeper you dig, the more evidence you have to support an educated opinion. Too much research never hurt anyone.

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 7:30 am
(@peter-ehlert)
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> ? ??????-???????, ?? ?????????, ???? ?? ?? ????????? ?????!

:good: :good: :good:

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 1:41 pm
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How Much Research?..What a @#%^$% Mess

"Jack stated that the Deed was wrong and should have included the southerly parcel. He said that he had purchased both parcels without a Land Survey and that he had been told by the Realtor and the seller that both parcels were part of the sale. He had obtained keys after the closing for both properties and he thought nothing more about it until he tried to convey the southerly parcel to a third party a few months earlier."

http://landsurveyorsunited.com/profiles/blogs/stripper-confessions-of-a-land-surveyor-part-3

Apologize for the link to another site i didn't think i could plagiarize the story.
This is one of the good registereds.

 
Posted : March 20, 2014 7:39 pm
(@rankin_file)
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How Much Research?..What a @#%^$% Mess

that site STILL makes my eyes bleed.....

 
Posted : March 20, 2014 8:02 pm
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I did a survey of a 500 acre farm a couple of years ago. Farm was comprised of many contiguous parcels. A number of year before, a 50 acre part of the property was in contention and the neighbor was trying to lay claim to it. The neighbor's surveyor and lawyer researched the title back about 150 year and finally got a description of it being 1/2 of one of the original town lots. Based on a survey of the lot, they assumed it was the westerly half that abutted there property. The farmer of course rejected that claim and fenced off the parcel and cut all the timber. The neighbor did not want to pursue it and dropped the claim. Now years later, I am researching this property. I have a copy of all the extensive research done years before. The description did not settle right with me, so I research 2 more deeds back in the chain and came up with the real description. The NORTHERLY half of the original lot and range. 5 more minutes in their research would have saved a tremendous amount of money, time and aggravation.

 
Posted : March 21, 2014 6:14 am
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