Florida 5J-17

Personally, I like the revision for the vertical accuracy portion. Requiring a map to state how the elevation datum was acquired should aid addressing local errors.

I see that you have to address the datum (whether you show coordinates or not) and document the accuracy (with a description of your methodology to determine that) of your survey every time. I would say if you don't do least squares adjustments on every project now, you had better get used to it to compute the accuracy statistics that you are going to need to meet the documentation requirements. I'm personally going with the ALTA/NSPS Relative Position Precision method.

What do all of you think of all this only surveying the "Record Title" boundaries? What does that mean to you? And is that what a boundary survey is supposed to do?

5J-17.052 Boundary Survey Requirements.
(1) Boundaries of Real Property:
(a) The surveyor and mapper shall make a determination of the position of the boundary of real property in complete accord with the real property description shown on the survey map or report and map. In order to ensure adequate and defensible real property boundary locations:
1. Every parcel of land whose boundaries are surveyed shall be made to conform with the record title boundaries of such land, taking into account relevant requirements of law concerning whether the survey is original or a resurvey.
2. Prior to making the survey, the licensee shall perform research of records with sufficient scope and depth to identify with reasonable certainty:
a. The location of the record boundaries,
b. Conflicting record and ownership boundary locations within, abutting or affecting the property or access to same,
c. None of the above is intended to require the surveyor to perform a title search.
3. A field survey shall be made locating monuments and evidence of occupation, appropriate or necessary and coordinate the facts of said survey with the analysis of the record title.
(b) Monuments shall be set or held as marking the corners after a well-reasoned analysis by the licensee.
(c) All boundary surveys shall result in a map (hardcopy and/or digital) and it shall be stated on the map that the survey is a ƒ??Boundary Survey.ƒ?
(d) Any discrepancies between the survey map and the real property description shall be shown.
(e) Survey data shall be shown to positively describe the boundaries of the surveyed property. For portions of the property bounded by an irregular line, distances and directions to the irregular boundary shall be shown with as much certainty as can be determined or as ƒ??more or less,ƒ? if variable.
(f) Surveys of all or part of a lot(s) which is part of a recorded subdivision shall show the lot(s) and block numbers or other designations, including those of adjoining lots.
(g) Surveys of parcels described by metes and bounds shall show all information called for in the property description, including point of commencement, course bearings and distances, and point of beginning.
(h) When the results of the survey differ significantly from the record,or if a fundamental decision related to the boundary resolution is not clearly reflected on the plat or map, the surveyor shall explain this information with notes on the face of the plat or map.
(i) Surveys of parcels with water boundaries shall describe the feature located including, top of bank, edge of water, mean high water line, ordinary high water line and the method used to locate the water boundary. Water boundaries may be located in their approximate position as long as this is adequately depicted and explained with notes on the face of the plat or map.

David Melvin is having a seminar in Mount Dora, FL ƒ?? Dec. 14, 2017 about this.

www.LandProSeminars.com

Here is my new Note 1 for Florida Surveys:

THIS SURVEY IS BASED ON AN ASSUMED DATUM IN U.S. SURVEY FEET WITH AN EXPECTED RELATIVE POSITIONAL PRECISION (RPP) BETWEEN ANY TWO POINTS SHOWN ON THIS SURVEY BEING WITHIN 0.07'+50PPM, AT A 95% CONFIDENCE LEVEL, BASED ON A PROPERLY WEIGHTED LEAST SQUARES ADJUSTMENT AND ERROR PROPAGATION ANALYSIS OF THE COLLECTED SURVEY DATA AS COMPUTED BY THE CARLSON SURVNET 14 SOFTWARE.

That's the kind of stuff that has me scratching my head though. If I read that to my clients, 0, and I mean 0% of them would have no idea what that means. So they are forcing us to perform an adjustment on every survey we do? I'm ok with that, but on an 80'x125' lot survey that's bringing a daisy cutter to a knife fight IMO. I get it (and do it) on large parcels with numerous calls in the description, or many changes of direction etc., but again, on some stuff it's overkill that my client shouldn't have to pay for. From talking with McLaughlin, the idea was to streamline our rules so that the profession was more business friendly. From what I see it's the complete opposite regarding statements on accuracy. I'm of the school that I'm a professional in measurement, my work should match that statement without me having to state such.

"?ÿI'm ok with that, but on an 80'x125' lot survey that's bringing a daisy cutter to a knife fight IMO."

It ain't going to happen on platted "lot surveys". No way.?ÿ

The Board did not do this on its removed link ?ÿ ?ÿThe state society told the board what it wanted and the board granted their wish.?ÿ ?ÿThe board is just the mouthpiece for the state removed link ?ÿ ?ÿWhat makes me think this??ÿ Look at the board removed link ?ÿ Every one, with the exception of the two 'consumer' members are society removed link ?ÿ Not hard to see why the society always gets what it removed link ?ÿ I also know a couple of fellows who have made repeated applications to be on the removed link ?ÿ Neither are state society members and neither one has been removed link ?ÿ?ÿ

As for the rules, I attended one of the workshops that were removed link ?ÿ The line of thinking is that they want you to document your survey process and explain your decision making process so that whoever may follow in your footsteps can see what you did and why you did removed link