And I??m saying surveyors are fact-based but are most inclined to serve their client, and not a questioning neighbor like me.
I agree with JPH and others above.?ÿ The surveyor's mandate is to serve the public.?ÿ If my client and a neighbor tell me different stories I'll not favor my client's story just because he's paying the bills.?ÿ Unfortunately the general public often mistakenly perceives me as "working" for my client which is not the case.
I'd rephrase you statement to: "Very few surveyors are inclined to serve their client, either deliberately or subconsciously."?ÿ?ÿThose that do are committing malpractice.
"Hey A$$#$%@, how much you gettin' paid to steal MY land?"
I got into an argument over a possible marker while surveying some ranch lands. The neighbor wanted what he thought was a marker to be accepted while my boss at the time wanted the line held between a 1/4 and NE corner of a section line. That resulted in the supposed marked being 20' off while the two found corners were original marked stones but were very short.?ÿ
So I was in the field trying to explain my bosses reasons for rejecting the very sketchy evidence and I finally explained to the neighbor that they would be gaining 20' of land...........argument over, neighbor happy.?ÿ
@r-leonard "(surveyors) are most inclined to serve their client, and not a questioning neighbor like me."
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Ummm. There was a well known surveyor in Florida (now deceased) who would disagree vehemently with such a statement.
In private, he would posit a question that might go like this, ??Who should a surveyor think most likely to sue (him) over placement of a boundary? The client? Or, the neighbor??
Then would come the question, ??Why would I want to deliberately choose to do the thing that might make me more likely to face a lawsuit??
This surveyor reasoned ?? you don't have to agree with him ?? he would be less likely to be sued by the client.
He would continue, ??If you ever recover evidence that is questionable, perhaps something that could cause you to have to flip a coin over which way to go. Never, choose to move the line over onto the neighbor. Always, choose to go with the solution that goes against your client (note the above quotes if you have trouble following his reasoning).?
He emphasized he had never been sued by a client, and that the only times he had ever been in court was due to an unhappy neighbor.
Personally, ain't no way I would ever want to do something to help a client that could increase the potential to my being sued by the neighbor.?ÿ Any surveyor that would make a career out of "helping" (hint, hint) the client would be courting trouble...in my humble opinion.
My experience is that if you go back far enough and dig deep enough it is unlikely you will be sued by either. ?ÿOf course it can happen. ?ÿI??m curious the number of times someone can expect to be sued during a 30 year career. ?ÿ
@r-leonard It's also not at all supported by any facts. Traipsing in with vague questions, followed by disparaging our profession probably won't get you much help.
If you have evidence of bias let's hear it. I'm betting all you have is an assumption fed by paranoia.
@holy-cow holy cow you are exactly correct. ?ÿThere??s a document in the hands of the (hostile) neighbor that departs from the metes and bounds description. ?ÿMetes&bounds, two CSMs, and land records all agree on record line. ?ÿNeighbor doc does not, and reason for search. Still 50ft over the record line though. ?ÿStill no word on remnants. ?ÿI??d like to think the surveyor would offer some detail, he knows what??s there for sure. ?ÿThe work is done and I dont think he??s being retained by anyone currently. ?ÿI can get a pin finder and look myself but want an official opinion.
"but want an official opinion."?ÿ The answer is to retain a local surveyor, or all you will have is endless conjecture.
Ken
