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(@davidalee)
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I was recently retained to resolve a boundary dispute brought about by the results of a recent survey. I made a field visit and found enough evidence to be certain of where the boundary was located. I then received a copy of the survey that caused the dispute. I was stunned. On the sketch below (not to scale), I found the tree called for in the deed with a pipe at the base of it (previous surveyor did not find). The black line on the sketch is representative of my opinion. Out on the other side of the road (not shown on sketch) is a roof bolt that is located at the end of the line (previous surveyor did find). The previous surveyor didn't find, or ignored, any of the evidence along the line from the top of the ridge all the way down to the road that I recovered. He set a pin at the deed distance at the top of the ridge and proceeded to set pins at deed bearings and distances all the way down the hill. At the bottom, near the road, he sets a pin at the deed bearing and distance, then he creates a 30' jog in the line to get back in line with the roof bolt recovered on the other side of the road. There is no 30' jog in either my client's description or the adjoining owner's description. This 30' jog cuts off my client's gate on one entrance to his property, thus creating a disputed boundary location. How do they come up with this stuff?

 
Posted : July 16, 2013 7:34 am
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Posted : July 16, 2013 7:56 am
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wow! I just retraced a boundary where the previous surveyor actually CHANGED the recorded plat data for some reason. I still haven't had a minute to call him to see what the fudge he is doing. This a fairly modern platted subdivision, well monumented. I recovered all the original corners set by the platting surveyor in the late 70's.

If this is the way surveying is going, chasing after these jerks, it's going to get old fast.

Andy

 
Posted : July 16, 2013 12:55 pm
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> I just retraced a boundary where the previous surveyor actually CHANGED the recorded plat data for some reason.

What does that mean? Are you saying that he went to the county and got the subdivision plat and wrote on the original in their office? Or are you saying something else?

 
Posted : July 16, 2013 12:59 pm
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> > I just retraced a boundary where the previous surveyor actually CHANGED the recorded plat data for some reason.
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> What does that mean? Are you saying that he went to the county and got the subdivision plat and wrote on the original in their office? Or are you saying something else?

I mean his "boundary survey" bore only a passing resemblance to the geometry depicted on the plat. It makes absolutely NO SENSE whatsoever...

 
Posted : July 16, 2013 4:25 pm
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>How do they come up with this stuff?

I'm willing to venture a guess: seminars. Somewhere, sometime the responsible surveyor probably attended a seminar where the presenter explained that writings didn't really mean anything, they were just "guidelines" to suggest what the parties intended. So, this impressionable person decided that it would be a fool's errand to go looking for all that evidence set forth in the adjoining owners's deed. Voila!

 
Posted : July 16, 2013 10:12 pm
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> >How do they come up with this stuff?
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> I'm willing to venture a guess: seminars. Somewhere, sometime the responsible surveyor probably attended a seminar where the presenter explained that writings didn't really mean anything, they were just "guidelines" to suggest what the parties intended. So, this impressionable person decided that it would be a fool's errand to go looking for all that evidence set forth in the adjoining owners's deed. Voila!

[sarcasm]Yes, and it saves the surveyor a lot of time, not having to look for the evidence. I mean, who's got time to stop and get out of the truck and use a shovel?[/sarcasm]

 
Posted : July 17, 2013 1:42 pm
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In this case, it would have been better if the guy just drew the survey from his chair.

 
Posted : July 17, 2013 1:59 pm