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(@holy-cow)
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People poop.?ÿ State and County Sanitation Codes say NO PRIVATE RESIDENTIAL SEWAGE TREATMENT FACILITIES IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.?ÿ Simple enough.?ÿ Put your house on stilts but poop in a bucket.

No septic field.?ÿ No sewage lagoon.?ÿ No tank that might float up and spill into the flood waters.

 
Posted : 21/03/2022 9:20 am
(@dmyhill)
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If you think that the project puts people's lives in danger, it would be unprofessional and unethical to proceed.

If this is about grown people choosing to risk their property, then I don't have an issue as long as you make appropriate notice to them.

If you did proceed, a "BFE +17 natural ground" (or whatever it is) on each and every lot would make a nice notice.?ÿ

Designing the road is a bit more of an issue, as you (I assume you are an engineer as well?) may have expanded public liability/ethics/professional care issues. People may use or intend to use the road that never have seen the plat or plans(did not purchase property).?ÿ

 
Posted : 21/03/2022 9:20 am
(@bill93)
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Posted by: @dmyhill

"BFE +17 natural ground" (or whatever it is)

While I like the idea of labeling each lot, the wording must be clearer so no one, however untrained, looking at it can misinterpret it. This almost seems to say above BFE.

"1% flood risk 17 ft above ground"

 
Posted : 21/03/2022 10:10 am
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It is a tough decision to not help a client get their work done.?ÿ But, if you would be uncomfortable with having your name associated with the project, then it is probably time to pass on this one.?ÿ You never know how open the conversations from the developer to buyers will be and not everyone understands the implications of the notes on a plat.?ÿ While it is up to the buyer to protect themselves, you do not have to be a part of a potential problem if you do not want to be.

 
Posted : 21/03/2022 10:45 am
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@holy-cow?ÿ

https://natureshead.net/

https://humanurehandbook.com/humanure_basics.html

Works for me.?ÿ Porches are for liquids.?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : 21/03/2022 1:07 pm
(@bill93)
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About 30 years ago I stayed overnight with some people who had a composting toilet.?ÿ My only such experience.

 
Posted : 21/03/2022 1:16 pm
(@holy-cow)
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@fairbanksls?ÿ

Know $#[t, Sherlock.?ÿ That's what they need to call such systems.

I believe I did say something about pooping in a bucket.?ÿ Our old outhouse came with an old lard can full of lime to be applied to the matter below the two-holer from time to time when the flies got bad.?ÿ Once every few years the outhouse would be moved away and the military style diesel and gas application was used to remove as much material as possible, then move the outhouse back over the pit.

Renovating a compost bin after a big flood would be very $#[tty work.

 
Posted : 21/03/2022 1:38 pm
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@holy-cow?ÿ

Nobody has called me Sherlock before.?ÿ Should I feel honored??ÿ LOL

 
Posted : 21/03/2022 1:45 pm
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Posted by: @fairbanksls

@holy-cow?ÿ

Nobody has called me Sherlock before.?ÿ Should I feel honored??ÿ LOL

Maybe this development is designed with No $#[t Sherlocks in mind.?ÿ

 
Posted : 22/03/2022 2:47 am
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Franks Fish Camp - no problem

Willis Estates - no

I would be worried about getting paid from a developer who is proposing to develop and sell lots in the floodplain.

 
Posted : 22/03/2022 4:04 am
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@bill93?ÿ

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indeed.

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even the Romans did it better than that 2000 years ago.

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Posted : 22/03/2022 4:20 am
(@holy-cow)
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Different counties around have slightly different policies for minimum size of tracts outside of the various city limits.?ÿ Three-acres is one of those minimums, based on the area needed for septic absorption fields, now and into the future.?ÿ Some counties require a minimum of five-acres.?ÿ The principle reasoning involves residential sewage, but, can expand into zoning issues for some other excuse.?ÿ Most counties do allow outhouses, so long as no public water system supplies water to that site.?ÿ We have an area with a sizeable number of Amish families with no public water source.

Installing a septic field or septic lagoon in a flood plain is a NO NO

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Posted : 22/03/2022 5:44 am
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