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Bill93, post: 429362, member: 87 wrote: I'd never heard this expression until about a week ago and now this is the 3rd occurrence I've seen. Where did it come from?

(Total hijack, but this thread is already off topic.)

Presumably, it's a term of naval gunnery since dropping a shell into the wheelhouse would leave any ship unable to maneuver.


 
Posted : May 21, 2017 7:43 pm
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Kent McMillan, post: 429364, member: 3 wrote: Presumably, it's a term of naval gunnery since dropping a shell into the wheelhouse would leave any ship unable to maneuver.

I have heard it for many years in baseball. It refers to a pitch in the strike zone that a hitter has a preference and a high percentage of hitting.
" The pitch was in his wheelhouse"
Then hitters started saying in interviews about a success at the plate that the pitcher "put it in my wheelhouse"
In recent years it has spread to other areas like politics etc.


 
Posted : May 21, 2017 8:01 pm
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Robert Hill, post: 429365, member: 378 wrote: I have heard it for many years in baseball. It refers to a pitch in the strike zone that a hitter has a preference and a high percentage of hitting.
" The pitch was in his wheelhouse"
Then hitters started saying in interviews about a success at the plate that the pitcher "put it in my wheelhouse"
In recent years it has spread to other areas like politics etc.

In the baseball context, it probably refers to the enclosure of the paddlewheel ships where if something is within the enclosre, it will surely get hit by a paddlewheel.


 
Posted : May 21, 2017 8:08 pm
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I take it back. The term "wheelhouse" seems to uniformly refer to the enclosure within which the steering gear, the wheel, of the ship is housed.

So a pitch "within the wheelhouse" of some batter is something under his control or conscious intent.


 
Posted : May 21, 2017 8:24 pm
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My name is David Charles. Karoly is the Hungarian version of Charles therefore my Father was Charles Charles.

Apparently Charlemagne had a huge influence in royal naming.


 
Posted : May 21, 2017 8:40 pm

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In my wheelhouse is the latest business buzzword, like at the end of the day or so that at the end of the day blah blah blah. Let me launch this and see how it floats. In big business someone might refer to that is in Joe's shop referring to Manager Joe of some office in the bureaucracy. Joe doesn't literally have a shop.


 
Posted : May 21, 2017 8:44 pm
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http://www.chronicle.com/blogs/linguafranca/2013/09/09/in-ones-wheelhouse-from-boats-to-baseball-to/


 
Posted : May 22, 2017 2:45 am
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Maybe I'll run into you at some point. I work in Hanover, PA. We do quite a bit of work in Carroll County, as well (and entirely too much work in and around Baltimore).


 
Posted : May 22, 2017 7:29 am
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Dave Karoly, post: 429371, member: 94 wrote: In my wheelhouse is the latest business buzzword, like at the end of the day or so that at the end of the day blah blah blah. Let me launch this and see how it floats. In big business someone might refer to that is in Joe's shop referring to Manager Joe of some office in the bureaucracy. Joe doesn't literally have a shop.

It is what it is...


 
Posted : May 22, 2017 8:25 am
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James Fleming, post: 429387, member: 136 wrote: http://www.chronicle.com/blogs/linguafranca/2013/09/09/in-ones-wheelhouse-from-boats-to-baseball-to/

I'm always wary of bloggers. It seems that they strive go an extra step to appear erudite on a topics that they have no experience.

I do believe that current usage generated from baseball lingo. As to the wheelhouse of a ship, I only have been familiar with the word being associated with paddlewheelers where the wheelhouse is prominent. I would connect the idiom with baseball in modern usage that may have been originated by a baseball person (player, manager, and broadcaster) along the Mississippi River or tributary. Cincinnati? St. Louis? Red Barber who I listened to as the Yankee announcer as a kid had all kinds of colorful and descriptive terms. He was a national treasure along with Vin Scully and others. I remember as a young kid using the term ƒ??Rhubarbƒ? to describe a ruckus or ƒ??Donnybrookƒ? for a heated argument or fight. Donƒ??t ask me how these originated. Both came from listening to Red Barber. Red started his baseball radio broadcasting in Cincinnati.

Baseball radio broadcasters had to use colorful and descriptive words and phrase to describe the action. It was an art and a skill in communication. There was another young college grad that got his career started by baseball broadcasting too from Illinois who worked in Moline. He did rather well for himself. They called him the ƒ??Great Communicatorƒ? later in life.


 
Posted : May 22, 2017 8:34 am

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The picture is, of course, from his days at WHO radio in Des Moines, Iowa. Wikipedia says:
Future United States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States&apos ;">Presidenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States&apos ;">t https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan&apos ;">Ronald Reagan worked as a sportscaster with WHO from 1932 to 1937.


 
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Do the Surveyors in PLSS state say " That's in my square house"?


 
Posted : May 22, 2017 9:22 am
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Robert Hill, post: 429406, member: 378 wrote: I'm always wary of bloggers. It seems that they strive go an extra step to appear erudite on a topics that they have no experience.

There are bloggers and then there are bloggers...in this case the blogger is a professor of English and Linguistics at The University of Michigan and is co-editor of the Journal of English Linguistics. I suspect this subject matter is right in her wheelhouse 😉


 
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Robert Hill, post: 429406, member: 378 wrote: I remember as a young kid using the term ƒ??Rhubarbƒ? to describe a ruckus or ƒ??Donnybrookƒ? for a heated argument or fight. Donƒ??t ask me how these originated. Both came from listening to Red Barber. Red started his baseball radio broadcasting in Cincinnati.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnybrook_Fair


 
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James Fleming, post: 429437, member: 136 wrote: There are bloggers and then there are bloggers...in this case the blogger is a professor of English and Linguistics at The University of Michigan and is co-editor of the Journal of English Linguistics. I suspect this subject matter is right in her wheelhouse 😉

Yea but she doesn't know 'sh!t from shinola' about baseball.


 
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James Fleming, post: 429440, member: 136 wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnybrook_Fair

Yeah i figured it was Irish in some way back then


 
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Going back to a miserable place with electronic time sheets and the computer pointing out where hours charged are below expectations, I still have dreams about being in the large national firm with nothing to do, so nothing I can put on my time sheet, then I remember I own my own company and I don't have to put up with this crap, so out the door I go. Seventeen years later and I still dream about what a miserable place it was.

Several years ago I was near their office and saw an old friend slowly trudging back into the office. She looked as if it was taking every bit of her soul to drag herself back to work (she later got out, too).


 
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Robert Hill, post: 429455, member: 378 wrote: Yeah i figured it was Irish in some way back then

That's profiling


 
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Lee D, post: 429405, member: 7971 wrote: It is what it is...

And it's about to go live.

I can't wait to see what it looks like....


 
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James Fleming, post: 428765, member: 136 wrote: Gave my notice today. Walking away in a couple of weeks from the exciting profession of Geomatics. No more scanning, or mobile mapping, or big transportation projects. No 500+ person company. No more fancy corner office inside the beltway (well almost inside) in a huge modern building with an office address that just said "fourth floor" and Thai restaurant in the lobby.

Trading it all in for a job in the good old fashioned profession of Land Surveying. Farm boundaries, rural & exurban subdivisions, and site plans. Fifteen person company (two PE's, a LA/Planner, and the owner is an LS) in an old Victorian house with an address on South Main Street in a sleepy town of 10,000 people. No Thai restaurant, but the Olde Town Restaurant a one block stroll down Main Street has a nice hot roast beef sandwich as a lunch special. I've got four farm boundaries waiting for me when I get there next month.

Couldn't be happier (SWMBO is livid that I'm leaving all the benefits, apparently she was looking forward to living large on the company provided life insurance once I keeled over from the stress).

Good for you James.

I did exactly the same thing 23 months ago......best career move I ever made.

Went from a well oiled (but unappreciative) machine, to a company run by humans who know how to communicate their appreciation for what we do.

Best of luck to you.

Angelo


 
Posted : May 23, 2017 2:48 pm

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