Long time lurker, first time poster here. I'm working on a project in Ohio, is referencing the tax parcel numbers rather than the deed references for adjoining tracts acceptable in Ohio. Seems to me the tax parcel numbers don't do you much good in referencing the description of a tract.
Thanks in advance.
Since it SEEMS to be obvious that you are not licensed in Ohio, why didn't you ask the Ohio surveyor who is being listed as in responsible charge instead of posting on this forum? Or check the Ohio minimum standards?
B-)
Not just Ohio but practically anywhere, Tax I.D.'s are temporary and can change or be extinguished. Deed references should always be permanent; maybe not current, but permanent.
As the other poster said, read the Standards to be sure.
And sometimes, a PIN is all you have to work with, but usually a phone call or two to the recorder can get you more info.
> Since it SEEMS to be obvious that you are not licensed in Ohio, why didn't you ask the Ohio surveyor who is being listed as in responsible charge instead of posting on this forum?
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> B-)
What kind of a response is that?!?!?
SEEMS very uncalled for to me.
Stephen
Agree with that.
No.
Here is what you need to read:
http://codes.ohio.gov/oac/4733-37
You will find that you are liable for finding, reading, and understanding the adjoining parcel's deeds. It's best to indicate that you have done so by referencing them in exhibits and legals. In addition to referencing the source by book and page, I will also call out the type of instrument in my legal description (Warranty Deed, Quit Claim Deed, Sheriff's Deed, Administrator's Deed, etc.) as long as it is clearly titled as such, as I feel that it reinforces the idea that I have followed the law in that respect.
I'm aware of a local case where the surveyor did not find, read, or reference an adjoiner's deed. A certified check well into five figures was paid to the adjoiner in order to get an easement removed which was "missed" by the surveyor.
In addition to the state standards every county is required to adopt conveyance rules. In many counties that includes additional requirements for both the plat and any descriptions developed as part of the survey. Start by going to either the web site http://www.thompsonhine.com/practices/realestate/index.php or the Ohio Department of Transportation Conveyance Standards site and select the county you are working in and read that county’s standards.
All-thank you for the info and links, they are very helpful.
Stephen Johnson-I did read the boards standards but that was well over a month ago. My reasoning for posting the question rather than looking up the board standards was that I knew I would get informative responses from knowledgeable Ohio PLS's. In fact some information given to me I most likely will not find on the boards website. Before I contact the survey company I'm paying for the survey I would rather do my homework before bringing to light the issues that I have that don't appear to conform to board rules.
We have all made the mistake of making a ignorant statement and then being left with consequences.
> All-thank you for the info and links, they are very helpful.
> Stephen Johnson-I did read the boards standards but that was well over a month ago. My reasoning for posting the question rather than looking up the board standards was that I knew I would get informative responses from knowledgeable Ohio PLS's. In fact some information given to me I most likely will not find on the boards website. Before I contact the survey company I'm paying for the survey I would rather do my homework before bringing to light the issues that I have that don't appear to conform to board rules.
> We have all made the mistake of making a ignorant statement and then being left with consequences.
Makes sense when put in context. The way it was originally posted I read as being you were working a survey that was in Ohio, not checking on a survey done by an Ohio Surveyor for you. It does make quite a difference and my response would have been to point you to a couple of Ohio surveyors whom I have met on this board and others or no response at all had I been aware of the real circumstances.
> > Since it SEEMS to be obvious that you are not licensed in Ohio, why didn't you ask the Ohio surveyor who is being listed as in responsible charge instead of posting on this forum?
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> > B-)
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> What kind of a response is that?!?!?
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> SEEMS very uncalled for to me.
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> Stephen
MR Calder.
Wrong call, again. I was not being out of line, I was asking an honest question and received an honest answer.
Mr. Morlan hit the nail on the head. Since Ohio was the first attemt for the government to sectionalize lands each area and county has their own standards to be met as well as the states minumum.
Naaah, that's not what happened.
You messed with the bull and you got the horns, that's all.
You'll learn.
Stephen
That is your opinion. nothing more.
True, but most people agree with me, not you.
And what did you mean by again? Have we tangled before? I must have forgotten. How bad was it for you?
Stephen
Understood. I should have explained my situation more to better prepare the readers.
Thanks