Number six on the blue collar job list-----
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-high-paying-blue-collar-121049018.html
Any question that we have a perception problem with the public?
Hey, at least we are above the streetcar operators........... well at least for average income. :-/
I knew that I should have taken that elevator repair class at the VoTec Center!!!!!!! :-$
I once read an article that described Civil Engineers as "upscale blue collar."
You mean this song pertains to us?
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A lot of surveying tasks are technical and blue collar in nature.
I could use a couple of skilled technicians sometimes just to help out with the measurement tasks.
If we only pay $10.00 an hour for all this we can't expect any more than what we get.
We are a service provider. We offer all types of professional Land Surveying services. Work includes small lot surveys as well as obtaining field data for large-scale engineering projects. A valid Georgia driver's license is required along with several years of experience. You must be drug and alcohol free.
Job Duties:
Act as Party Chief for a two-man survey crew. Interpret deeds and plats and be able to recreate property boundaries on the ground. Responsible for reading work orders and performing the work in a timely, professional manner. Be able to prepare neat, concise sketches of projects. Meet with clients and explain outcome of work performed.
Required Job Skills:
Ability to obtain deeds and plats from courthouses.
Ability to interpret deeds and plats.
Ability to operate various types of surveying instruments and data collectors.
Ability to download field data and transfer data to and from a network.
Ability to perform boundary and topographic surveys.
Ability to work outdoors year round.
Ability to comprehend and follow instructions.
Ability to communicate well.
Location: Cobb County
Compensation: $10.00 per hour
Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.
> If we only pay $10.00 an hour for all this we can't expect any more than what we get.
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> We are a service provider. We offer all types of professional Land Surveying services. Work includes small lot surveys as well as obtaining field data for large-scale engineering projects. A valid Georgia driver's license is required along with several years of experience. You must be drug and alcohol free.
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> Job Duties:
> Act as Party Chief for a two-man survey crew. Interpret deeds and plats and be able to recreate property boundaries on the ground. Responsible for reading work orders and performing the work in a timely, professional manner. Be able to prepare neat, concise sketches of projects. Meet with clients and explain outcome of work performed.
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> Required Job Skills:
> Ability to obtain deeds and plats from courthouses.
> Ability to interpret deeds and plats.
> Ability to operate various types of surveying instruments and data collectors.
> Ability to download field data and transfer data to and from a network.
> Ability to perform boundary and topographic surveys.
> Ability to work outdoors year round.
> Ability to comprehend and follow instructions.
> Ability to communicate well.
>
> Location: Cobb County
> Compensation: $10.00 per hour
> Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
> Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.
$10.00 an hour for a Party Chief? I wonder if that is with or without benefits.
> $10.00 an hour for a Party Chief? I wonder if that is with or without benefits.
"Hard work is it's own reward"
The 1%
I belive you've found the same article our Engineering SUPERvisor has!
One of the many reasons he constantly points out that his project managers and construction inspectors should make more, THEY are "professionals" (i.e. P.E. license holders). Yes, the economy is that bad enough that they have Licensed P.E.s doing construction inspection.
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Mine is white.....today
Yesterday it was flo-green. The day before it was black.
I bet they are referring to door-to-door and boiler-room surveyors who are seeking information from you so they can do a better job of ripping you off later.
Land surveying being listed as "blue collar" in a financial magazine is of little consequence when considered alongside of the recent Department of Labor, Wage and Hour Division, reclassification of land surveyor to "laborers" and "mechanics".
This could have long standing ramifications to our profession-ah, are we federally recognized as a profession? Rephrase, long standing ramifications on me and my fellow labors. With some ciphering and book learin', maybe one day we can hope to ascend to a tradesman-shoot for the moon!
We can thank our local 12, Operator's Union (which surveyor's are members in Southern California), for turning over a 50 year classification. According to the union, field surveyors do not exercise independent judgment- rather, they spend their days carrying GPS units over rough terrain.
Pardon me while I go stare at the sun.
DWoolley
You have no idea how much you will see something like this when looking for surveying jobs. The surveyors/engineers that post these either wonder why they can't keep anybody or know they won't(the latter of those I usually refer to as "sketchy" and their work product shows it).
I saw in another Yahoo! article a while back where surveying was one of the top ten "occupations you don't need a degree in"....
I think the writers of these articles are pulling it from outdated information. A lot of the statistics they quote seem to be from 2007. I remember some of the figures from a few papers I wrote in college
That article and this one being discussed in this thread did not mention the difference between a surveyor and a licensed surveyor.
Dave if you use one eye at a time then you can get a D and R on the Sun.
I love one of the comments below the article:
"I don't care if it's blue collar or white collar...as long as my money's green!":-D
> Number six on the blue collar job list-----
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>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-high-paying-blue-collar-121049018.htmlbr >
I kind of always thought that surveying was a light blue (or white with blue stripes) collar job seeing that half the job is in the field and half is in the office. At least it is for me.
Some days its a no-collar job.
And not a dress-T if you know what I mean.
I would be offended at being lumped in with those[sarcasm] dirty blue collar occupations[/sarcasm], but frankly it is not offensive.
There are a number of surveying positions that do not have anything to do with "Professional Land Surveying" which means no licensing requirements. Then there are a number of positions which work under the supervision of a licensee which do not even require formal education.
If you are on a construction site as the main layout guy, you probably don't have the luxury of even a blue collar except first thing in the morning before work starts.
If you are one of the 10 field crews working under a single licensed surveyor, you probably don't have the luxury......
If you are a solo practitioner, you probably split your time between office and field and don't always have the luxury......
We are in a profession where the most visible part of our work means we are often sweaty and dirty when people see us 'working'. Most folks do not see the hours at the office putting the puzzle together or combing through references. They don't know how many hours may have been spent doing calculations to develop the layout data file. Maybe they see us cleaned up at the planning meeting for ten minutes presenting a plan.
At least since high school, I have never really worried about how others perceive me. I get to do some really interesting work as my chosen profession. I enjoy the heck out of it almost every day (the summer months do take a toll on my enthusiasm). I know what I have done to get educated/experienced at surveying. I also know what was required to get my license. If a client/attorney/real estate agent/planner/county clerk thinks of surveying as a blue collar job - big deal.
What other people, professions, or trades think of surveying really does not bother me in the least. The amazing thing is that, for most people, if you treat them with respect - you receive respect. I can probably count on one hand the number of people in my 20+ years of surveying who have not treated me as a professional. Even prior to being licensed.
White collar jobs - attorney, banker, politician. Wow, I think I would rather be blue collar. At least then I am likely to get respect.
Couldn't have said it better Jon. Amen. Right on.