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> > ...I did a quick search of the 200 surveys I recently printed out for project I am working on and out of the first 50 I checked there were at least 5 instances of monuments being over or under the section line that were NOT held.
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> Just out of my idle curiosity, what area are you working in?

We work in every Idaho county north of and including Latah County. This particular area is in Boundary County.


 
Posted : August 2, 2012 9:04 am
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Any comments on this BLM stated policy?

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Keith


 
Posted : August 2, 2012 9:05 am
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> Any comments on this BLM stated policy?
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> https://surveyorconnect.com/images/uploaded/20120801161753501956b11ebf8.jp g" target="_blank">https://surveyorconnect.com/images/uploaded/20120801161753501956b11ebf8.jp g"/>
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> Keith

While I appreciate the re-education of previously posted material and information contained within the books in my office...my only comment would be that there is no official record as referenced in slide two of the BLM image.

I survey sections of land all the time and hold 1/16 corners in place, so it's not like I'm new to this concept. I just think that in this circumstance I might not hold those mons.


 
Posted : August 2, 2012 1:09 pm
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No, I Am Saying The Section Line Has To Be Straight

The road has to be way out of line so that the Errant surveyor could not survey a straight line down the open right of way.

I gather that the Errant surveyor set the 1/16 corner and the Errant survey layout at the ame time. So how far off line is the 1/16 corner?

The quality of the 1/16 corner affects how one considers the intermediate points along the section line.

What you are saying is that the Errant surveyor could measure distance almost perfectly but just could not lay out a straight line. That gives me pause as to the quality of his work.

Were I to find the road straight I would have to consider that as a superior monument to the rebars.

Paul in PA


 
Posted : August 2, 2012 9:11 pm
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A picture of PLSSia as it really exists

Every "section" line in the US that has a corner set on the section line somewhere between the sections corners is bent. Just a matter of how much--0.001' or 5' or more. So issue for me is how long has it been there, is it a legitimately set corner, and how far off it is--or how much bending cheese can be stolen from the trap without getting snapped in the process of trying to make things jigsaw.

Often the land vallue might be eventually disputed is tiny and worth less than the survey cost to try to straighten it out. If the "error" is less than tiny, a decision may be made to show both lines and let advise the client or title attorney.

Often the purchaser, vendor or owner is not concerned over something tiny, and one might ask if a conservative approach might be used just to make things jigsaw, and move on.

Of course the procedure is not simple or standard--professional judgment required. Given the fact that I believe all section lines are bent, my feelings are to be conservative to keep disputes from arising--within the limits of my best professional judgment and the Board rules.


 
Posted : August 4, 2012 5:27 pm

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