Plat was signed and sealed 4-23-12. I think the problem is due to a "copy and paste" error because of the bearing at the street being in the wrong quadrant, but bearing was changed 2 seconds which is odd. This survey is not part of any survey that I am associated with, but things like this frustrate me to no end. If the land owner tries to measure the lot lines, they will encounter a major error... which makes us all look bad.
All that I can say is: cross reference a Lot Report or run a check closure before anything goes out the door... PLEASE!!!!
Carl
If I had to guess it looks like the street line legnth is to long. I don't think the tangent line is 100 foots.
> If I had to guess it looks like the street line legnth is to long. I don't think the tangent line is 100 foots.
Oh, I know what's wrong, it is the street line. But how is "Joe Landowner" supposed to know that?
You're right no way he would.
Not being a smart@#&, but why are you calc checking a plat that has nothing to do with anything you are working on?
Because it is incredibly blatant!
This is one of the items commonly caught by those who review surveys. I've done it, myself. It is as embarrassing as heck.
> > If I had to guess it looks like the street line legnth is to long. I don't think the tangent line is 100 foots.
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> Oh, I know what's wrong, it is the street line. But how is "Joe Landowner" supposed to know that?
Joe Landowner isn't going to calculate the misclosure on his map. When he needs the corners, he's going to hold up the map, look between the two water meters, a couple of fee east of the shed, a little way north and east of the manhole and sight along a line just off the house.
The only ones fretting over the "misclosure" will be us surveyors. We're able to tell which number is in error with little effort. You find the mistake, and you place the error where it occurred.
[sarcasm]I'm glad I've never made a mistake like that... File a complaint with the board and take away his license. Probably got it out of a cracker Jack Box.[/sarcasm]
JBS
Looks like the survey is good from the found monuments. Most of the older land owners around here would have noticed the error right away, after all there is a picture. These types of errors seldom create problems for anyone.
jud
So what will you do in that situation? Call the surveyor and tell him, hey, I came across this plat of yours and I may have found a bust? Just curious.
> These types of errors seldom create problems for anyone.
WRONG! What if title is transferred based on this document? Big problems and headaches down the road for someone.
You guys do not have to identify size of monuments?
Next thing you know, Jeff Lucas will be writing about a subsequent surveyor that used all the data from that survey and caused a boundary dispute.
I abhor the term "iron pin". An iron pin could be anything from a rebar to a crescent wrench.
> Not being a smart@#&, but why are you calc checking a plat that has nothing to do with anything you are working on?
I happened to spy it while looking for something else. I wanted to see if my brain was in order (that it didn't look right) and checked the closure. It's a matter of public record, so I'm not really out of bounds. I'll probably tell the stamping surveyor about it tomorrow when I expect to see him.
Notice, I didn't berate him, I only suggested that people better check plats before they go out the door. I'll post something that I've done that misclosed also.
Carl
> So what will you do in that situation? Call the surveyor and tell him, hey, I came across this plat of yours and I may have found a bust? Just curious.
I hope to see the stamping surveyor tomorrow and I'll let him know what I found. It's a matter of public record already, so I'm not sure what they'll do.
Carl
> You guys do not have to identify size of monuments?
No we don't. I tend to, but it is not common practice in my area of practice.
The code says "Description of each monument found and each monument set by the professional" I guess it said that things like "Iron Rod Found" and "Iron Rod Set" do describe the monument. Admittedly, stating the size of the monument would be a better and more accurate description.
Carl
>...I think the problem is due to a "copy and paste" error
Yea. I get caught all the time with that. I can look and look and not spot errors, but then when I make a PDF for review they jump out at me, but some 'copy/pastes' sneak past.
Could he file an Amended Survey Plat that refers to the original plat (book and Page, or Document Number) with a note stating the nature of the change?
I'm notorious for missing things where partial distances don't add up the overall distance (usually because of rounding in CAD) and misspelling street names. I get redlined on those things all the time.
> Could he file an Amended Survey Plat that refers to the original plat (book and Page, or Document Number) with a note stating the nature of the change?
Surveyors can't simply record plats in VA. At least not in my county. They tend to handle plat recording on a county by county/city basis here. This would either take a Deed of Correction or a Certificate of Owners to record an amended plat. Basically something with the owners signatures notarized.