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(@jimcox)
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So I've been having a wee play with my new Unix computer

It has not always been straight forward, but I think I finally have a stable configuration

And some success...

scene3
scene2

.... a 3d visualisation of one of my surveys overlaid onto a 1m lidar dataset

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Posted : 18/06/2021 8:24 pm
(@jitterboogie)
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NICE!!!!

 
Posted : 19/06/2021 6:18 am
(@john-putnam)
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New & Unix in the same sentence.?ÿ Am I back in the late 80's.

I miss Unix & C.

 
Posted : 19/06/2021 7:06 am
(@peter-ehlert)
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Posted by: @jimcox

Unix computer

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is that actually some flavor of Linux, or BSD? more info please!

 
Posted : 19/06/2021 7:12 am
(@jitterboogie)
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@john-putnam?ÿ

Unix is always there with you....esp because your smart phone is using a flavor of it no matter what platform you pick.

 
Posted : 19/06/2021 7:25 am
(@jimcox)
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@peter-ehlert?ÿ

Ubuntu -?ÿ a flavour of unix - open source and free

 
Posted : 19/06/2021 7:30 am
(@peter-ehlert)
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@jitterboogie actually it's not Unix, it's built on BSD
a very different beast

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Posted : 19/06/2021 7:32 am
(@peter-ehlert)
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@jimcox Cool. Ubuntu is good.
I was testing a beta release this morning.

for my systems I much prefer Debian (the foundation of Ubuntu) with the Mate desktop.
it's a bit more work to install and setup. Kinda professional grade software.
Much faster, more secure, and noncommercial.

Give me a shout if you want some assistance. It's kinda what I do these days.

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Posted : 19/06/2021 7:39 am
(@jimcox)
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@peter-ehlert?ÿ

I went the Ubuntu way as

a: its is widely used in the scientific and research community here

and

b: it was supposed to be easier.

Given the issues I have had getting it work reliably, I think it is probably a good thing I didn't go Debian. OS install is not the sort of thing for novices...

 
Posted : 19/06/2021 8:00 am
(@jimcox)
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@john-putnam?ÿ

Believe it or not, I still do some software development in Fortran...

 
Posted : 19/06/2021 8:06 am
(@jitterboogie)
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@peter-ehlert?ÿ

Fair.

BSD is also just a flavor of Unix too.

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Posted : 19/06/2021 9:22 am
(@bill93)
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Posted by: @john-putnam

I read an interesting story about Unix security.?ÿ In the early days, the developers of the operating system often needed to help others with their setup, so built in a back door that they could use to run things remotely with root privileges.?ÿ Since people compiled different variations of the original OS code, they built the compiler to always insert that backdoor code in a re-build of the operating system.?ÿ Since the compiler could compile new versions to replace itself, they built the compiler to recognize that it was compiling itself and put in the code to put in backdoor code in the operating system.

After a few years, they got worried about security and told everybody how to take it out.

 
Posted : 19/06/2021 9:31 am
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@bill93 That is close to what happened, but Ken Thompsonƒ??s C compiler hack predated the notion of remote tech support. It was simply a way for Thompson, one of the creators of UNIX, to sit at a local terminal of any instance of his creation and gain access to it ƒ?? basically an ego thing. And there have been backdoors in other software over the following decades: most less well-known than Thompsonƒ??s, and Iƒ??m sure others that are still essentially unknown. For some of Thompsonƒ??s own reflections about this, see: https://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/hh/thompson/trust.html

 
Posted : 19/06/2021 8:42 pm
(@jimcox)
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@peter-ehlert?ÿ

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Peter,

One of the big things missing on my new toy is Google Earth.

Do you have any recommendation for a windows emulator or similar for running it on Ubuntu?

Thankx

 
Posted : 20/06/2021 8:43 am
(@peter-ehlert)
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@jimcox

for several years downloads of the .deb file direct from Google has worked as expected on all Debian versions,
I have never tried it on Ubuntu.
Ubuntu is "different"... let me know if you have trouble

https://www.google.com/earth/versions/

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Posted : 20/06/2021 1:06 pm
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