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My desktop updated itself to Windows 10 Pro version 2004 a day or two ago, and now TBC won't load, stopping partway through "initializing database."?ÿ It's an old version of TBC (3.61 I think).?ÿ ?ÿI've tried running as admin, and tried the compatibility checking tool, but no luck.?ÿ

Any good ideas, short of upgrading TBC??ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : September 15, 2020 2:39 pm
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I would say an uninstall, followed by running the Cleanup Utility, then a reinstall, should fix this particular problem. At least it did a few years back when I experienced the same thing. Can't remember the version though, it was somewhere around 4.0.


 
Posted : September 15, 2020 4:38 pm
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Did you consider "system restore" to a previous date?


 
Posted : September 15, 2020 5:35 pm
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Sorry to hear about your problem.

My first attempt would be to restore to a previous time.

I got 5 EVO SS drives to fix that possibility to replace the main drives in my working computers and because of one reason or another, I have yet to be able to get any of them working.

Still setting up my new computer and have not had time to deal with my Win7 Pro 64 and for some reason I don't have all the updates necessary to do my XP Pros, go figure.

Windows simply does not respect the existing dedicated files necessary to operate priapatory software that professionals depend upon when updates are made.

I am pretty sure there should be the makings of a grand scale lawsuit to be had because this has happened to most everyone at some time.

For this very reason, I've unhooked everything from the internet that I use to do any computations and drawings because I am satisfied with the old versions of software that I have.

If I need to download stuff, I do it on my Win10 64 Enterprise and put on a thumb drive or use my interoffice network (not hooked to internet) to upload into a program.

0.02


 
Posted : September 15, 2020 7:45 pm
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In general I've found that back-dating the OS eventually causes more problems than it solves, so I'm probably not going in that direction.?ÿ As much as I dread the prospect of uninstalling, cleaning, and reinstalling TBC, I guess that's the path I'm going to try next.


 
Posted : September 15, 2020 7:56 pm

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There was a support note from Trimble on the issue.?ÿ Seems to be something to do with the hasp dentinal software if I remember correctly.

?ÿ

You should find it here:

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http://mkto-n0199.com/tHJ00E0nCL08C00RR8000lv


 
Posted : September 15, 2020 10:03 pm
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The biggest obstacle using ƒ??restoreƒ?, which can be overcome (kind of easy), is the damn drivers. Thatƒ??s usually the only issue I encounter. There are a multitude of ƒ??find and replaceƒ? driver software programs available if that is your only alternative?ÿ?????ÿ


 
Posted : September 16, 2020 6:36 am
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When Windows updates are made, the event can alter or delete the root commands that are used for programs that depend upon a "key" that is a command for you to be given permission from the maker to use their program and acts as a proof of purchase feature.

This has happened to me more times than I like to remember and can be a very expensive flaw that is created by companies inserting the feature in the root commands which conflicts with the Windows program to correct the root commands to match their newest OEM features.

Windows simply overrides your custom settings for your personal use.

Those changes usually can not be fixed without uninstalling the program and reinstalling the program again.

good luck

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Posted : September 17, 2020 11:57 am
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The uninstall/clean/reinstall didn't help, so I've decided to bite the bullet and update to v5.32.?ÿ I'll let you know how it goes.


 
Posted : September 18, 2020 1:42 pm
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Wow, that was painful.?ÿ Aside from the financial pinch, the install (3+GB download, by the way) required no fewer than 4 restarts.?ÿ Of course, I stupidly agreed to a complete install, and only after pushing that button did I realize that I'd be installing a boatload of helper apps for things like scanners and drones that I don't use.?ÿ It was an hours-long process.

Once I got it installed, it asked if I'd like to install the updates.?ÿ "Sure!" I said.?ÿ That took another couple of hours, with the installer repeatedly issuing a warning that the installer was not responding.?ÿ I found (by trial and error) that just waiting it out was the ticket (no need to hit the Retry button), and eventually got it up to date.

If I could bill for the time it took to install I'd have paid for the software.?ÿ Instead I got hit twice.


 
Posted : September 18, 2020 11:42 pm

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@jim-frame

When I bought our P4Pro drone, having never used one before, I went into the sales shop thinking I'd be flying my may out. They gave me the box, I paid for it, I looked at them, they looked at the door, then I left. Then I spent the next two days you-tube watching, uploading, downloading, installing, pass-wording, account-set-upping, unlocking ...


 
Posted : September 19, 2020 12:38 am
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I wonder if the long install time it's related to things like this:

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Posted : September 19, 2020 1:18 am
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I wonder if the long install time is related to things like this:

?ÿ


 
Posted : September 19, 2020 10:56 am
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(Hmmm...my edit double-posted...)


 
Posted : September 19, 2020 10:57 am
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Hi,?ÿ

I am unsure if this is the right forum or topic.

I am very new to Trimble Business Center and I'm trying to process for correction my GNSS data from an S9 receiver.?ÿ I was sent a .DAT file (Starnet) as exported from the equipment. When I try to load it into TBC, I receive a fatal error saying it could not read a certain line/ python error.?ÿ

It would help me a lot of anyone could shed some light in the matter.

?ÿ

Thank you very much.


 
Posted : September 23, 2020 10:35 pm

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@jarcos Do you have access to the T02 file(s)? That's the native format from Trimble receivers. I'm not familiar with an S9.


 
Posted : September 25, 2020 8:50 am
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@jim-frame I'm sorry you had a bad experience (speaking for myself, I'm not affiliated with Trimble in any way). However, I install and update TBC on a very regular basis and it should never take more than about 30 minutes once you have the installer downloaded.


 
Posted : September 25, 2020 8:52 am
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The .dat file extension means different things in different contexts.?ÿ A Trimble .dat file is a raw GNSS data file that would be suitable for importing to TBC.?ÿ A Star*Net .dat file doesn't contain vector data, it contains station positions and terrestrial measurement data.?ÿ The former is a binary format, the latter is plain ASCII text.?ÿ It's not clear to me which one you have.?ÿ I'm not familiar with the S9 receiver (a South product?), but it's conceivable that it can export a Star*Net .dat file.

When you open your .dat file in a text editor, can you see readable text or binary gibberish?

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Posted : September 25, 2020 9:58 am
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@jim-frame S9 is a Trimble robot, so that makes sense, the DAT file must contain station and measurement data. I don't think TBC can read that, I think you need the JOB file or a JXL (DC files are obsolete and not fully supported)


 
Posted : September 25, 2020 10:02 am
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Posted by: @lee-d

S9 is a Trimble robot

jarcos said his data was from an S9 receiver, which I believe South makes.?ÿ But if he's got data from a Trimble S9, that's a different matter entirely.


 
Posted : September 25, 2020 10:20 am

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