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I'm curious what European, British surveyors use for their survey software. Both PC &DC.

Here in Australia we seemed to be joined by the navel to USA and China when it comes to trade, and yet Europe is not much different distance wise. By that all has to be put on a ship or a plane.

Thought I'd better add that as this is a surveying forum and someone might pull out a piece of string and run it over a globe.;-)

 
Posted : July 22, 2015 2:11 pm
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For above ground monitoring I have used

http://www.nrgsurveys.co.uk/

For below ground I have used

http://www.geodata.at/en/sensors-systems-software/software/Eupalinos.php

Both worked very well, especially compared with the typical excel/CAD mishmash that many use for monitor data reduction and analyses.

 
Posted : July 22, 2015 2:23 pm
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Thanks for the links.

I'll have a look.

 
Posted : July 24, 2015 12:14 am
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I like liscad also but you probably already know about that.

Disclaimer; I am not from Europe.

 
Posted : July 24, 2015 4:04 am
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Richard,
speaking for Belgium ...
In the Flemish part of our little country all as-built surveys must meet the minimum GRB-standards. These are standards that describes what objects goes in what layers. So all of our local survey software deals with that, international software doesn't. Some companies have built tools that run in Autocad and/or civil3d.

Commonly used in Belgium: Geopus, Pythagoras, tools for Civil3d by GeoIT and of course the microstation Inroads and Geopak.
I also heard of Mensura and something called Novapoint survey from Vianova.

greetz,
Christof.

 
Posted : July 24, 2015 5:59 am
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FWIW - I have two guys working for me with degrees from the Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava and they did all their work back in the old country on Bentley platforms.

 
Posted : July 24, 2015 6:09 am
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2 packages commonly in use in the UK by engineers / surveyors are n4ce and LSS. Both are pretty easy to get into and angled more for engineering calcs and topo surveys.

NRG also has it's users, 12D not so much but it is used (apparently). Bentley MX (MOSS) used to be the standard for road construction topos, design and setting-out. Our topo surveyors had to prepare their topo in this format to satisfy the designers.

 
Posted : July 24, 2015 9:00 am
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squowse, post: 328931, member: 7109 wrote: 2 packages commonly in use in the UK by engineers / surveyors are n4ce and LSS. Both are pretty easy to get into and angled more for engineering calcs and topo surveys.

NRG also has it's users, 12D not so much but it is used (apparently). Bentley MX (MOSS) used to be the standard for road construction topos, design and setting-out. Our topo surveyors had to prepare their topo in this format to satisfy the designers.

On the logger it will mostly be Leica - Smartworx, Viva and the new captivate. Trimble also has it's users - Access mostly and some SCS900. Topcon, just the standard magnet I suppose. Not so much aftermarket software like Carlson used on loggers. The only one I have seen is a swedish one called "Geo" but Leica bought it and turned it into Leica iCon.

 
Posted : July 24, 2015 9:03 am
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12D, Liscad, they go back a while.
I looked at 12D (4D? Back then) in its infancy and regret not taking that path.
I was put off by the added module cost and Microsurvey was just making inroads so went that way.

I'm yet to find a really good software that handles cogo, traversing in a stand alone application, one that is bullet proof, powerful and handles bearings as we know them here.
Majority of my work is cadastral.
Topographical work is important, but happy to have that as a separate application.
These observations have to be held against my current survey software which whilst very good for cadastral work crashes too often.

 
Posted : July 25, 2015 1:08 am
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not much cadastral work in UK at all, so can't comment on the suitablity. What type of bearings are you using?
I think 12D was an Australian package, seems to be going strong and yes I am pretty sure it's a development from what was called 4D when I was in Sydney.

 
Posted : July 25, 2015 2:56 am
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We call them bearings, USA calls them Azimuth - north or south .
Bearings related to fill circle readings 0å¡ north through 90å¡ east 180å¡ south 270å¡ west etc.

You mention not much cadastral work in UK.
Do you have many boundary disputes? Lost boundaries?

 
Posted : July 25, 2015 3:25 am
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Richard, post: 329042, member: 833 wrote: We call them bearings, USA calls them Azimuth - north or south .
Bearings related to fill circle readings 0å¡ north through 90å¡ east 180å¡ south 270å¡ west etc.

You mention not much cadastral work in UK.
Do you have many boundary disputes? Lost boundaries?

We only use Whole Circle Bearings, 0 to 360 with zero being North. I have seen bearings used to describe the "N 30 E" type of annotation.

Cadastral work seems to be based on fencelines. If they creep over the years then you either gain or lose basically. The only thing that is sometimes recorded in your deeds is the plan area of the plot and sometimes the dimensions. But there is no point of beginning to the dimensions. I do get asked to measure up plots but there is not much I can do except give them a topo. Chartered surveyors are the legal experts but they don;t do any measuring (for the above reasons there wouldn't be much point).

 
Posted : July 25, 2015 3:42 am