@jimcox I have used TGO and its predecessor GPSurvey. We had the military add ons for go survey and then also tgo. Loved tgo. I like tbc for the ability to combine different data types. Gps terrestrial etc levels. Some kinks still but tbc in my opinion is not far from a total package. So computations processing and cad deliverables. I am close to doing everything in TBC. I men everything from start to finish deliverables. I am actually trying it on a project now. Have a guy that is going to get me over the hump soon and train me more on the dynaviews etc drafting side. I have been experimenting with what i have self taught myself on that side and now i am at a road block. And it’s mostly the drafting and inserting into a title block that i can pass off to civil 3d users as well if i need help. Civil 3d is the standard where i am. But what i have learned is if done correctly i can be just as productive in tbc. Now many in house clients and external clients need civil 3d so i have to balance that oh and microstation bently.