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It used to be that when I was going through the traverse/side shot COGO routines, it would prompt me for the zenith angle....now it's not doing that and I don't know where to find the setting to turn it back on. Anybody know this off the top of their head?

 
Posted : 13/05/2016 11:07 am
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ZOFF
ZON

 
Posted : 13/05/2016 2:07 pm
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A Harris, post: 372148, member: 81 wrote: ZOFF
ZON

Thanks!!

 
Posted : 13/05/2016 2:15 pm
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EDIT I figured out that I have to toggle on "locate on real Z axis" in order to have the option utilize slope distances and zenith angles in the COGO routine.

 
Posted : 16/05/2016 8:47 am
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After I toggled on the "Locate on real Z axis", (to allow the use of slope distances and zenith angles)...Carlson COGO routine is solving an elevation for my calculated traverse point. How in the heck can it do that if I didn't tell it my instrument height and target height?

I realize it's Monday...and maybe my coffee has not kicked in yet...

 
Posted : 16/05/2016 9:00 am
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HI
HIV
are two other toggles for carrying elevations

 
Posted : 16/05/2016 9:14 am
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You must be using some different software - HI is the alias command for HIDE

 
Posted : 16/05/2016 9:28 am
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Some, not all of the shortcuts are from Carlson's original COGO and have been assimilated by newer versions.

PON
POFF
was the original toggle for prism heights

There is some setting for the drawing to be in either 2D or 3D that will invite these prompts.

 
Posted : 16/05/2016 11:01 am
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Hmm..I'm running version 2015 (civil/survey) on Autocad

I looked in the COGO help files and didn't see any mention of being able to toggle the software to prompt for inst. HT or target HT.
Seems really odd that it would solve an elevation without knowing those variables.

 
Posted : 16/05/2016 12:26 pm
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imaudigger, post: 372480, member: 7286 wrote: Hmm..I'm running version 2015 (civil/survey) on Autocad

I looked in the COGO help files and didn't see any mention of being able to toggle the software to prompt for inst. HT or target HT.
Seems really odd that it would solve an elevation without knowing those variables.

I called Carlson tech support and they presumed that the traverse routine was applying the calculated vertical difference to the occupied station elevation in order to generate an elevation for the new traverse point. I don't see how this would ever be useful or desired.

They did point out to me the Visual COGO routines that allow you to specify HI/HT when entering a traverse.
Since the data is entered into a dialog box, there are no keyboard shortcuts such as the ones you suggested.

 
Posted : 16/05/2016 12:39 pm
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In point defaults, it will allow you to check for the height of instrument and target.

Whenever I have to key in something though, I go to the survey edit process raw data and key in the raw file, like you would get from the d/c. It's spreadsheet format and VERY easy to use and you can set the backsights, HI/HR, traverse, sideshots, et cetera. Then, when you reduce it, you can, if you're working on the grid, apply the scale factor in a seamless click of the button. Plus, it allows you to verify you didn't fat finger something (visually) before reduction. I highly recommend it.

 
Posted : 16/05/2016 12:56 pm
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Kris, I think that routine should be set up so it WILL NOT calculate an elevation unless that "Instrument and Rod Height" box is toggled...unless someone else can suggest a situation where you would want to enter a traverse and have the software apply vertical elevation differences without considering inst./rod heights? Looks like a bug to me.

Thank you for that suggestion. I'll give that a try next time.

Sometimes I miss the old DOS Pacsoft days.

 
Posted : 16/05/2016 1:06 pm