Notifications
Clear all

Carlson cutsheet

5 Posts
4 Users
0 Reactions
22 Views
(@rsasurv)
Posts: 116
Member
Topic starter
 

Hi guys,

So I've got Carlson Civil suite and dive head first probably 15 hours watching webinars and tutorials,mostly on F2F, and another 40 hours fiddling with as much bits as I could,but was hoping soemone might be available or willing to guide me when I've got a few semi-urgent questions.

Example : in about 3 hours I am to do a level survey of a concrete slab to check if it is to design and what is the deviation. I did this with the skydeck pre-cast and did this by surveying the points,finalising the surveyed data to a .csv, creating a copy of that file and only replacing elev with the design elev. Then surveyed data goes in survey.crd and design data goes into dedign.crd. Then I used the cutsheet function, Import survey.crd as points and then Graade design.crd as points. Label setting are unchecked tolerance marker, checked draw delta symbol, and draw label. If I uncheck draw delta symbol, then when I Draw Label, nothing gets drawn. When I check it then it draws label with cut/fill but also a dy/dx arrow symbol which I dont need.
Q1 : Any reason it's doing that?
Q2 : Can I do a comparison to just a height by stating the height or is there a better way to do it?
Q3 : How do I manipulate the traingles of contours? I want to see the contours and the traingles and then flip triangles to change to contours etc? Can that be done. All that is happening now is it draws contour polylines?

More questiona will follow so hope to hear from you guys.

Thanks for recommending this software. Works great

Dirkie

Sent from my SM-N920C using Tapatalk

 
Posted : August 24, 2016 11:35 pm
(@Anonymous)
Posts: 0
Guest
 

I don't have your program, so can't answer your queries.
Is the slab design level?
If that's the case I'd subtract the design level from observed levels, giving in effect new elevations, and there's your instant answers. Plus and minus differences.
If your slab is sloped I'd contour, model the slab = Surface 1, contour, model observed (constructed) elevations = Surface 2.
Subtract 1 from 2 and create a new model.
Contour that and again your answer.
Latter would require setting surface tolerances to accept very small values, even negative ones.
That's my standard approach for a lot of surface measurements requiring difference to design.

 
Posted : August 25, 2016 4:09 am
(@rsasurv)
Posts: 116
Member
Topic starter
 

Hi Richard,

yes that's how I've been doing it as well for the psat few years. Below is a screenshot of what Carlson's cutsheet function gives me if I Import my surveyed points and define the Grade as my surveyed points Y and X but replace the Z with the design of the slab.

That then gives me an immediate cut or fill value relative to the slab design. But that requires me making a file with "fake" Y and X values that match the surveyed and then replacing the Z with the design Z. I was wondering if there is a way to just define the slab level once, and then calculate the deviation from that defined Z.

Secondly if I don't set my Label Settings to Draw Delta Symbol then I don't get the cut and fill labels drawn. But if it's on I get what looks like a dY dX error arrow thing that I don't need. Well at least not on checking levels.

Thanks

Attached files

 
Posted : August 25, 2016 6:50 am
(@arctanx-2-2)
Posts: 416
Member
 

Call Carlson tomorrow. They are quick help on the phone.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk

 
Posted : August 25, 2016 8:03 pm
adam
 adam
(@adam)
Posts: 1163
Supporter
 

RSAsurv, post: 388030, member: 10950 wrote: Hi Richard,

yes that's how I've been doing it as well for the psat few years. Below is a screenshot of what Carlson's cutsheet function gives me if I Import my surveyed points and define the Grade as my surveyed points Y and X but replace the Z with the design of the slab.

That then gives me an immediate cut or fill value relative to the slab design. But that requires me making a file with "fake" Y and X values that match the surveyed and then replacing the Z with the design Z. I was wondering if there is a way to just define the slab level once, and then calculate the deviation from that defined Z.

Secondly if I don't set my Label Settings to Draw Delta Symbol then I don't get the cut and fill labels drawn. But if it's on I get what looks like a dY dX error arrow thing that I don't need. Well at least not on checking levels.

Thanks

RSA, you can do this in the field if you are using Survce too. Use the Elevation Difference tab and set it to the elevation of the slab. It will show real time z delta from the design, when you store the staked points you can export the cut sheet from field. You can stake a surface model too.

 
Posted : August 26, 2016 3:29 am