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(@tom-wilson)
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Dumb question but I thought I would ask as I can't seem to make it work.

I want to duplicate points in my coordinate file and assign them new point numbers.

i.e copy 701-712 to 801-812.

"Renumber" erases the original points, which I don't wish to do.

"Duplicate point numbers" is a check for point number conflicts.

"Copy/Merge" wants to copy from or to another coordinate file.

I am sure there must be a way to do this simply but I guess my brain is on park today.

Any ideas ?

Thanks

Tom Wilson

 
Posted : August 31, 2010 10:24 am
(@kris-morgan)
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I think, it's under CFU and enter/assign points. You can't use EA at the command line, you must do it through the CFU.

 
Posted : August 31, 2010 10:25 am
(@tom-wilson)
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Kris:

Thanks, that works but is pretty slow, one point at a time.

Call up the existing point in the edit box then type in the new (duplicate) point number and store. It works but is not very efficient, but I'll take it.

Tom Wilson

 
Posted : August 31, 2010 10:34 am
(@kris-morgan)
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I only use it when working in design where I have say a sewer manhole with a rim elevation and need the same point with a flowline elevation when calculating plans.

 
Posted : August 31, 2010 10:40 am
(@kris-morgan)
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You could

Beat the animal by exporting the points you want to an ascii file, then import that file into the CRD and add 100 to all of the point numbers. That should work and be pretty slick. I do that when merging several projects that I've tied together.

 
Posted : August 31, 2010 10:41 am
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There's a couple of different ways to do this. One is to import your txt or ascii file again into the same CRD file, but there's a box that you can check (in the "Import Points" dialog box) to add a value to the points that you are about to import, and there's a box where you enter that value, in this case, 1000. Once you say OK, the points are then imported with the new value added to them.

The 2nd way to do it is to create another CRD file and import your txt or ascii point file into, and have the checkbox checked that adds a value to the point numbers. So if the first point is one, you would have "1000" in the "value to add" (I think that's what it's called) box and it would number the points 1001 and up from there. Then use the Copy/Merge command and merge the two CRD files.

Hopefully this is what you are wanting to do.

 
Posted : August 31, 2010 10:43 am
(@tom-wilson)
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Thanks folks.

That all works but I would think "they" would make it simpler, it is not an uncommon function. I can't complain Carlson does way more than I'll ever use but occasionally you run into some stupid little thing like this that appears simple but isn't.

Tom Wilson

 
Posted : August 31, 2010 10:50 am
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I don't think importing your txt file again and filling in "1000" is that hard. YMMV.

 
Posted : August 31, 2010 10:52 am
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Glenn:

It's not that hard but creating another file and messing with it takes time and it would be very simple to have a duplicate function inside the coordinate file utility, they have everything else there.

Tom

 
Posted : August 31, 2010 11:45 am
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> Glenn:
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> It's not that hard but creating another file and messing with it takes time and it would be very simple to have a duplicate function inside the coordinate file utility, they have everything else there.
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> Tom

Tom,

I hear you, but as I said, you can import the points again, add the value of 1000, and your done. That doesn't involve creating another CRD file.

 
Posted : August 31, 2010 11:55 am
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Try this:

1) Isolate the layer with your points
2) Go to DRAW --> Copy --> Copy to Layer
3) Select the points and put them on a new/different/empty/generic/you-get-the-idea... layer
4) Freeze the layer used in #3
5) Use the Renumber points command and add 1000 or whatever to the point numbers. Use a Selection Set and pick the original points.
6) Thaw the layer used in #3
7) In Coordinate File Utilities, use "Update CRD File from Drawing" and put a window around all the points in the drawing including the originals and the copy.

Hope this helps.

Jennifer

 
Posted : August 31, 2010 12:06 pm
(@tom-wilson)
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Thanks Jennifer, I try it out.

Tom

 
Posted : September 1, 2010 3:42 am
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If you are using the 2010 version of Carlson Survey, the CG-Survey -- Management -- Transformations -- Copy Coordinates command should fill this functionality very well.

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Ladd Nelson

 
Posted : September 1, 2010 8:03 am