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(@norm-larson)
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This is trying to resurrect a VRS GPS vector, OK several days worth. I have several files that will not process, because the driver for the collector has issues (their words) and not all of the needed data to get it into Star Net was recorded. Star Net 7 will not import and Star Net 8 screws it up by hundreds of feet in vertical. I am sure MS will fix that, but, I am trying to get something out of what I have. A single RTK vector looks like this:

--GNSS Statistics RT: Obs=5,Solution=RTK Fixed,PDOPMax=1.80,SVMin=8,StdDevH=0.0088',StdDevV=0.0119',RefID=0027,RefLat=N47å¡22'50.04264",RefLon=W122å¡14'08.82186",RefHgt=34.8096',RefFormat=CMR,MountPoint=CSKI
--GNSS Statistics PP: Not Active
--PP Time: StartWeek=1888,StartSec=325969.0,StopWeek=1888,StopSec=325978.0
--Antenna: Desc=S320,True=6.8366',Meas=6.5600',ARP_V=0.0mm,ARP_H=0.0mm,NGS_ID="HEMS320 NONE",NGS_L1=84.3mm,NGS_L2=93.2mm
AH,DC2,MA6.560,ME2,RA6.837
EP,TM18:32:58.0000,LA47.42272451313,LN-122.30009557674,HT301.5569,RN0.0070,RE0.0055,RV0.0119,DH0.9,DV1.5,GM4,CL1
GS,PN1,N 157658.7553,E 1277333.5790,EL301.5569,--26 200TH

You can see that there is missing data, but, I can also see that the measured point is LA47.42272451313,LN-122.30009557674,HT301.5569
That yields a Cartesian of -7579222.112 -11989099.544 15333822.274 to phase center
and a Lambert Grid 4601 of 157658.086 1277332.902 308.394 to phase center

That misses the field reported Lambert Grid coordinates by a significant amount in northing and easting. When I opened the file I had assumed that they were both adjusted data and would match each other. Does anyone know which is adjusted and which is raw? I am used too the Trimble world where the reports are reduced Cartesian differences to phase center. I was assuming that the geographic was the one to use until it didn't match the coordinates which have to be further down the calc train. More than likely to get any kind of comfort level, I will have send someone out to recollect the data on a few points and then reverse engineer. Maybe, I should just run to the office and get a "good" file and see how it is different

 
Posted : March 20, 2016 4:20 pm
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I found some time back that the StarNet converter for TDS raw files was outputting vectors in feet units. StarNet will always assume that vectors are in metric, no matter what units your raw data reports, no matter what your StarNet project is set to, no matter what inline command you add for setting units. Perhaps that is going on with your Field Genius converter also.

AFAIK Microsurvey hasn't fixed the problem yet. My workaround is to export my survey data to .jxl format, which is an option with Spectra Precision Survey Pro, and using the TrimbleXML converter.

 
Posted : March 20, 2016 4:30 pm
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Thanks for your response. I do know about the feet issue and it is involved, but, I usually adjust for it. In this collection the Cartesian difference do get interpreted as meters and after converting to feet, northing and easting are close and the elevation is around a factor of 3, not 3.28083 ...

 
Posted : March 20, 2016 4:35 pm
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Not sure what you mean by driver to collector error.

Is FG working on Allegro?
Can you Inverse points, export points in xyz format from FG?
If yes to inverse then does that give useful information?
That should confirm what's what in regards to adjusted or not adjusted query.
Not sure if that's any help at all.

 
Posted : March 20, 2016 6:52 pm
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FG is on a Mini 2. From MS their driver for the Hemisphere 320 is bad and does not collect all needed information that StarNet needs. Even if the coordinate pairs inverse, I don't trust them at this point as the issue is a shift

 
Posted : March 20, 2016 7:14 pm
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Norm I assume MS is MicroSurvey.
Do you have their download software, MicroSurvey Transfer Program?
Or MicroSurvey?
Would that (help) see what's going on.
Are you going straight from FG to StarNet? I'll have to bow out on that side. FG and MicroSurvey okay?
Can you ask MicroSurvey for help?

 
Posted : March 20, 2016 8:42 pm
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Yes, MS = MicroSurvey. Yes, I have their data transfer and that is where the ASCII text was derived from. Yes, I have asked them, but, as always I am under pressure to get the job done and wanted an answer this weekend. I'm going from FG to Data Transfer to Star Net. I just use Star Net as a converter though and use my own macros to convert the vectors back into a Trimble dc file. FG is not OK as it is where the driver resides that creates this issue.

 
Posted : March 20, 2016 9:03 pm
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Re-collecting some points today. It is the only way to know for sure what is going on, I am afraid.

 
Posted : March 21, 2016 5:23 am
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Just for prosperity at this point, but, the Lat, Long and Ellipsoid Hgt proved out to be correct. The grid coords shown were not

 
Posted : March 22, 2016 10:46 am