Kelsh Plotter - free

Pete,

I've forwarded your contact info on to a friend of mine. He graduated from East Central University in Ada, Ok. They have a unique cartography school down there. In my memory there is (was?) a professor down there that enjoyed collecting the older equipment. He may still be there or he may have passed on. My buddy is in touch with the alum so he might know.

How much you think it would cost to FedEx it to Oklahoma?....;)

Road Trip!

We could meet at Promentory, Utah.

It is Big and Heavy, would need to be shipped by freight, and of course it needs to be packed for shipping.

can you view the link? I believe I descried it fairly well
http://clsaforum.californiasurveyors.org/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7030

Dave Karoly, post: 410863, member: 94 wrote: Road Trip!

We could meet at Promentory, Utah.

sounds like fun!

seriously, this would make a great display piece for a office lobby

***please put out the word to the Photogrammetry firms you know.

Peter Ehlert, post: 410902, member: 60 wrote: ..seriously, this would make a great display piece for a office lobby..

It might make a pretty good boat anchor too....;)

paden cash, post: 410904, member: 20 wrote: It might make a pretty good boat anchor too....;)

not funny! don't break an old man's heart

Those things were antiques 40 years ago, LOL. We had a couple in our photogrammetry lab in college.

SHG

Pete,

The "collector" fellow I mentioned that was involved with the East Central University's Cartography School was Victor Murray. We've tried several avenues and all his contact info seems to be dead ends. I hope it finds a good home.

Shelby H. Griggs PLS, post: 411570, member: 335 wrote: Those things were antiques 40 years ago, LOL. We had a couple in our photogrammetry lab in college.

SHG

LOL ... well, Dick bought it in 1970, so not quite an antique then I guess.

Shelby educate me please:
When did the transition from colored projectors and glasses to alternating illumination happen? And what was that technology called?
Dan Radman LS3521, Radman Aerial Surveys in Sacramento used to do a lot for me in the 90's and I believe he was using several of them then, but being borderline epileptic the flashing lights kept me at a bit of a distance. By the later 90's he was digital and was able to provide layered cad drawing rather than a scan of the mylar.

I am guessing Dick never converted his (this one), but maybe he did. He was a much better Surveyor than businessman. His heart was in boundaries, and we all know how much money is in that.

You might try Rich Leu and the Surveyors Historical Society to see if you can find some interest.

Thanks, I will look him up

Sorry to disappoint but Surveyors Historical Society already has a Kelsh plotter. Needless to say, we don‰Ûªt need another one. In fact, we don‰Ûªt need the one we have and we‰Ûªve been searching, to no avail, for a new home.

We moved our entire collection of equipment, artifacts, documents and books to a clean, well-lighted place in the fall of 2015 but the Kelsh plotter didn‰Ûªt make the trip. It‰Ûªs currently stored at an undisclosed location awaiting a decision that will determine its ultimate fate.

A fairly large space would be required to display a fully assembled Kelsh plotter. If the Museum of Surveying in Springfield, Illinois had survived, there might have been a place for one there, but as it is we've been unable to find anyone willing to devote the required space to display such an arcane piece of equipment.

It‰Ûªs a sad commentary but there it is.

Thanks. I appreciate that
it makes me kinda sad, life goes on

Peter Ehlert, post: 411647, member: 60 wrote: Thanks. I appreciate that
it makes me kinda sad, life goes on

Here's a story about an old piece of equipment and the guy that owned her. If you've got 25 minutes and your nightcap hasn't kicked in yet it's a trip...especially the music.
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There was one in the basement at the University of Arkansas when I was a student. The class went to view it as part of the photogrammetry course one day. It was an antique and interesting.
Then we were advised that the white trout were running on the White river and that might be a more beneficial way to spend some time.

Shelby H. Griggs PLS, post: 411570, member: 335 wrote: Those things were antiques 40 years ago, LOL. We had a couple in our photogrammetry lab in college.

SHG

If you went to OSU, I believe there is still one there.

Tyler Parsons, post: 411661, member: 139 wrote: If you went to OSU, I believe there is still one there.

OIT, heck maybe they still have one too...

Peter Ehlert, post: 411599, member: 60 wrote: LOL ... well, Dick bought it in 1970, so not quite an antique then I guess.

Shelby educate me please:
When did the transition from colored projectors and glasses to alternating illumination happen? And what was that technology called?
Dan Radman LS3521, Radman Aerial Surveys in Sacramento used to do a lot for me in the 90's and I believe he was using several of them then, but being borderline epileptic the flashing lights kept me at a bit of a distance. By the later 90's he was digital and was able to provide layered cad drawing rather than a scan of the mylar.

I am guessing Dick never converted his (this one), but maybe he did. He was a much better Surveyor than businessman. His heart was in boundaries, and we all know how much money is in that.

I am afraid I am not going to be of much help on that. I attended OIT in 1978-1980 in Klamath Falls, OR, if memory serves there was both one with the red/blue projectors and one with a rotating shutter device that created the strobe effect, we used them very briefly in our photogrammetry class. I never used one in production, in fact, I borderline can't see in stereo at least with a plotter, seem to do OK with a pocket scope if I stare through it for awhile.

I have been primarily in the aerial mapping business as a surveyor since 1990 and stereo just never was a natural thing for me, LOL.

We probably worked with or knew some of the same folks, I worked for Richard B. Davis in Crescent City, CA from 1990-95 and during that time he bought the assets of a mapping firm in Santa Rosa after the owner/pilot and his wife were killed during the loss of an engine in a C206 on 15-Nov-1992 near Clearlake, CA.

We didn't have any Kelsh plotters, but a couple of Zeiss P3 plotters and a Wild B8 or two during the 1990-95 time frame.

I still work for a mapping company, still as a surveyor, of course all digital now, 3D on a monitor, while the principles are still the same, the business sure has changed alot since even 1990.

SHG

Shelby H. Griggs PLS, post: 411664, member: 335 wrote: I am afraid I am not going to be of much help on that. I attended OIT in 1978-1980 in Klamath Falls, OR, if memory serves there was both one with the red/blue projectors and one with a rotating shutter device that created the strobe effect, we used them very briefly in our photogrammetry class. I never used one in production, in fact, I borderline can't see in stereo at least with a plotter, seem to do OK with a pocket scope if I stare through it for awhile.

I have been primarily in the aerial mapping business as a surveyor since 1990 and stereo just never was a natural thing for me, LOL.

We probably worked with or knew some of the same folks, I worked for Richard B. Davis in Crescent City, CA from 1990-95 and during that time he bought the assets of a mapping firm in Santa Rosa after the owner/pilot and his wife were killed during the loss of an engine in a C206 on 15-Nov-1992 near Clearlake, CA.

We didn't have any Kelsh plotters, but a couple of Zeiss P3 plotters and a Wild B8 or two during the 1990-95 time frame.

I still work for a mapping company, still as a surveyor, of course all digital now, 3D on a monitor, while the principles are still the same, the business sure has changed alot since even 1990.

SHG

Small world. I remember hearing of Richard Davis, I don't remember if I ever met him.
That company would be a descendant of Aero Cartographics, Dick's company. Jim Hamblin and Fernado (CÌÁmara?) later became partners. Apparently this plotter was retained by Dick when the partnership changed. Perhaps it had lost it's value by then.
Jim (LS 5130) was a friend, we worked at the same company together when we first left school, before he got into aerial. Later we worked on CLSA committees together, we drove to Sacramento together for several board meetings, he loved to fly. Very enjoyable person to be with. His death was tragic. Their son was also in the plane, he survived.
Fernado (he trained me on the plotter) was said to have wiped out the entire Peruvian air force... he flipped a single engine plane :-). There was a photo on the wall with the plane upside down, intact.

I wish I could remember more...