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> Well, that presupposes that Richard’s spirit is somehow around to care. .Richard’s spirit lives on in those who knew him and interacted with him. This is why we respect the dead.
Baha’i surveying – Hell hath no boundary
> Richard’s spirit lives on in those who knew him and interacted with him.
I daresay I knew Richard Schaut via the internet for longer than just about any other poster. Jim Frame, Derek Graham, and Jeff Austin posted to the sci.engr.surveying newsgroup where Richard first regaled us with his ideas about allodial titles and the surveyor being a sort of super-judicial Special Master and probably share that distinction, such as it is. That had to have been more than 15 years ago.
Fifteen years ago, Richard posted like a member of some militia writing about the sovereign citizen movement as it applied to land titles. I often wondered what sort of odd life experiences had left him in the shape he was. He never really posted about actual surveys he had made and always wanted to cut-n-paste something from that bar in Michigan where Tom Cooley hung out.
Here’s a blast from that past of sci.engr.surveying, from September 5, 1999. Jim Frame had asked about the apparatus for making solar observations for azimuth and RSCHAUT has provided this comment:
Remember, time is dependent on your longitude. If you do not set your watch at the location of your observation you may be using the wrong time value. If you set your clock at the office, your time value will be accurate only if your sight location is north or south of your office. If you go east or west your time is no longer accurate.
Pax/Pox upon you.
Delete whichever you feel is inappropriate.
Richard Schaut
rsch…@aol.com
To which a poster from Austin, Texas helpfully pointed out:Richard:
You of all readers of this newsgroup should be aware of the fact that time is allodial. Thomas Jefferson envisioned a nation in which it was whatever time that the citizens decided it would be, not the time as fixed by the Queen of England through her foot servant, the Astronomer Royal at the meridian of Greenwich.In America prior to Justice Cooley’s time, Jeffersonian time was observed. It was a different time in virtually every little hamlet and burg from sea to shining sea. About the time of Cooley’s address to the Michigan bar, however, a nefarious development took place. Yes, the railroad barons, those plutocratic pretenders, mandated that time would no longer be allodial, but would be disposed of according to foreign conventions and standards. The atomic clocks of the French bureau and the conventional use of the meridian of Greenwich, rather than the meridian of Washington, or Twin Peaks, are merely emblems of the triumph of the plutocrats.
Please, do not standardize your watches. Time is allodial. If you and,say, a friend agree to meet, then whatever time you meet is exactly the time that was agreed. There can be no mistake in this system.
Allodially,
Kent McMillan, RPLS
Austin TXI got it. Hopefully my post didn’t come across as disrespectful because it wasn’t meant that way.
I’m a little bothered by those simply taking the opportunity to continue poking fun and having nothing positive to say.
That is sorry news. I learned a lot from participating in some of his online squabbles.
Baha’i surveying – Hell hath no boundary
I know you and richard went way back to that mesage group way before POB days but I didn’t know the witticisms were flying way back then.
Baha’i surveying – Hell hath no boundary
> I know you and richard went way back to that mesage group way before POB days but I didn’t know the witticisms were flying way back then.
Well, Richard could always be relied upon to post something that was way out there, such as the idea that you needed to set your watch at the exact place where you intended to make a solar observation for azimuth. There never seemed to be a shortage of posters who knew better on those sorts of topics and he wasn’t able to slide past. Eventually, Richard pretty much switched gears and specialized in posting about Allodial Surveying – naturally without any details.
I will miss Richard.
He and I did not always agree.
but, I learned from him.
RIP, Richard.
Nate
> That is sorry news. I learned a lot from participating in some of his online squabbles.
That is the process. Even the most outlandish statements (not talking about Richard here)have to pass peer review. The rebuttal can be very informative.
> > That is sorry news. I learned a lot from participating in some of his online squabbles.
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> That is the process. Even the most outlandish statements (not talking about Richard here)have to pass peer review. The rebuttal can be very informative.:good: Excellent statement Merlin!
Ralph
> Reminds me of a turkey hunting video I saw once:
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> Three toms are walking down a dirt road together, picking at bugs and thinking about the next hen. The hunter takes aim at the biggest bird and fires. Immediately upon killing the largest tom, the other two birds pounce on the dead tom and rip apart their stricken adversary.:good:
Thanks for your kind words, and eapls comments too. :good:There is a time and place for stuff, and I appreciate your sensitivity to Richard. I learned to think about more dimensions of surveying from Richard.
Somehow, I idyllically dream of a good clean survey, with 2 plain monuments, say a lot line, that is 300′ long, N-S, set in 1950. Then, somebody mows over the line, and in his mind THAT is the line, then the neighbor on the other side hears that the old walnut tree is the line, and so in his mind he becomes attached to it. Then neighbor 1 above builds a clothesline, and it agrees with his mowed line. He believes he is right. BUT the one that believes the walnut tree, simply thinks his neighbor is wrong, but does not confront him. So, lawnmower guy/clothesline guy begins adverse possession/allodial occupation… and Richard now monuments the mowed line…. And, on and on it goes!
RIP Richard.
Nate
McMillan never gives up…
I’ll personally be thrilled if no impressionable surveyor takes anything he or she reads on the internet as other than entertainment.
And back atcha. Ya got me again.
Just trying to get the last word. Maybe?McMillan never gives up…
> Just trying to get the last word. Maybe?
Yes, I think you are trying to.
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