A friend of mine needed some land surveyed recently and he chose the surveyor based on price and since then he has been complaining every single time I see him. I know of the surveyor and he is generally less than most others and his work is generally marginal at best if he is sober but not this time. When he did this survey it was a drunk day because there are beer bottles around the entire tract at every traverse point.
Ya gotta make sure the day he shows up is a sober day and also be there when he leaves to ensure he stayed sober. It's a coin toss sober day/drunk day. Are ya feeling lucky?
Just A. Surveyor, post: 453520, member: 12855 wrote: A friend of mine needed some land surveyed recently and he chose the surveyor based on price and since then he has been complaining every single time I see him. I know of the surveyor and he is generally less than most others and his work is generally marginal at best if he is sober but not this time. When he did this survey it was a drunk day because there are beer bottles around the entire tract at every traverse point.
Ya gotta make sure the day he shows up is a sober day and also be there when he leaves to ensure he stayed sober. It's a coin toss sober day/drunk day. Are ya feeling lucky?
Not knowing the human behind the disease, I feel unqualified to judge.
That said, a letter to the board is in order. If performing his duties while inebriated, he is doing a diservice to the public and it should be reported.
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Back in the old days..
There's a report somewhere (can't lay my hands on it) of a survey party finishing off some street boundaries in Devonport near me, and the locals all turned out and had a shindig.
Surveyors joined in too. Alcohol was not in short supply.
I gather some of the resulting surveys were of a rather mercurial nature.
I'll have to go look on an old drive. It's a while since I saw it and yonks since it actually happened.
Early 1900's surveys on King Island in Bass Straight were made with bottles used for reference marks.
Buried base down they were invaluable for redefining corners as it was dense damp sandy loam, and even if they'd been smashed up the base was generally intact.
The surveys themselves were quality stuff so I doubt they used full bottles consumed on site.
A great place to survey if you can stand the incessant wind and the stench of rotting kelp complete with its own maggot supply.
Richard, post: 453559, member: 833 wrote: and yonks since it actually happened
Thanks Richard! Great word. I'm going to work that into a survey narrative:
yonks
PLURAL NOUN
British
informal
- A very long time.
??I haven't seen him for yonks??
This post leaves me speechless.
Too many wrongs that can never make it right.
If the consumer doesn't file a complaint then the drunk will stagger ahead to the next survey.
Surveyors will continue to bear the negative image held by the public.
I should edit and only post the first sentence.
I like to drink, but never while working either in the field or in the office. It is against the law to practice while under the influence. There's no way that should be tolerated.
At least one state I'm licensed in requires, upon renewal the licensee to certify to a number of questions, such as have you met the CEU requirements, have you been disciplined in another state, etc; including a question along the lines of "do you use drugs or alcohol to the point where it affects your professional work?" I assume this is in place to give them the additional power to discipline the licensee for making false statements to the board should a substance abuse situation raise it's head.
Drinking on the job is bad enough... leaving empties on the client's property is unreal.
As bad as that sounds (and it IS bad) I have more of an issue with those that are NOT impaired but just don't care about the quality of their work.
Andy
Old boss's favorite story (he is a Civil Engineer) was his friend had a Party Chief who liked to drink beer on the job. One day he somehow managed to tip both the theodolite and his beer at the same time, the horror of the story is that he granbbed his beer and let the theodolite fall to the pavement but he at least saved his beer. My boss told me that story over and over again, not sure what it meant to me because surely I could catch both my beer and the theodolite at the same time, couldn't I?
Depends on how many beers you had partaken - Beer Leg!
Andy Bruner, post: 453615, member: 1123 wrote: As bad as that sounds (and it IS bad) I have more of an issue with those that are NOT impaired but just don't care about the quality of their work.
Andy
To rephrase...
You can treat some substance abuse with success. Some ignorance can be fixed by learning. Stupidity is most often untreatable...
Alvin Tostick, post: 453575, member: 13000 wrote: This post leaves me speechless.
Too many wrongs that can never make it right.
If the consumer doesn't file a complaint then the drunk will stagger ahead to the next survey.
Surveyors will continue to bear the negative image held by the public.I should edit and only post the first sentence.
I may have to mention it to him the next time I see him.
Client: I want to file a complaint against a surveyor who was drunk on the job when he surveyed my property.
Surveyor (when questioned): no I wasn't.
You can't just discipline someone because someone else just "says so". I mean, what if the client was lying
