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I did a division of a 33 acre piece of property I surveyed 15 years ago. I had a copy of a smaller survey I had done on this property about 10 years ago in the file, so I checked to make sure it was for a mortgage of the house and 1 acre. Looked it up online, and lo and behold on the last page of the mortgage were the social security numbers of the owner and his wife, handwritten by them on lines labeled as such under their signatures. Talk about easy ID theft!

 
Posted : December 6, 2010 1:44 pm
 jud
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Must be young, ss numbers used to be given freely, even service numbers used them although mine was a real service number, and was not a problem until the borders were opened to everyone and corruption was accepted and encouraged in the name of power over the people.
jud

 
Posted : December 6, 2010 2:01 pm
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There are people spending time in courthouses trying to find that information in public records every day.

The mortgage companies requirements that private information be included on documents that are to be publicly recorded is an invasion of privacy.

It was put into action in Texas that those and other forms of private information could be blacked out on documents before recording for public access.

 
Posted : December 6, 2010 2:17 pm
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When I got my SS card, I think in 56, it was law that it be carried with you always, I did and still have that original card. If the law still stands and I believe it does, anyone with a sap can get the numbers anytime they want.
jud

 
Posted : December 6, 2010 2:30 pm
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...even service numbers used them...

yep, mine was stenciled under my name, right there on the front of my duffle bag.

 
Posted : December 6, 2010 2:43 pm
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I don't remember when I got mine, but it says right on the bottom of the card, quote:
"FOR SOCIAL SECURITY AND TAX PURPOSES-NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION", Riiiiight.

 
Posted : December 6, 2010 2:45 pm
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Wasn't this part of the reason Texas went nuts a few years back and wouldn't let anyone but employees actually see original filed documents?

 
Posted : December 6, 2010 4:19 pm
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A while back I was fooling around looking for old friends on the net and found one via his county's court records. He was sued by someone and paid a small judgment. The check he paid with was scanned with the court docs and his bank acct number was there for the taking. Makes you think, don't it?

 
Posted : December 6, 2010 5:04 pm
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Gregg,

Same for me, still have the duffel (that puppy is at least 30 years old now) but it dosent go through the airport anymore! Can you imagine that today?
CV

 
Posted : December 6, 2010 5:38 pm
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I had heard of social security numbers appearing on deeds, but never saw one until after this thread was started.

I was doing some on-line research this evening and saw my first one ever.

 
Posted : December 6, 2010 6:00 pm
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Most Clerks of Court here in South Louisiana are having their documents scanned, but they are taking care to "black out" the SSNs before being scanned.

 
Posted : December 7, 2010 11:01 am
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> When I got my SS card, I think in 56, it was law that it be carried with you always, I did and still have that original card. If the law still stands and I believe it does, anyone with a sap can get the numbers anytime they want.
> jud

I still have my original(only) SS Card. But it is a few years younger than juds. I got mine in the 60's.

🙂

At one time mine was on my Chauffeur's license. Never been there since I changed to a Commercial license a couple of years later.

 
Posted : December 7, 2010 12:39 pm
(@steve-gilbert)
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Here in Jefferson County, Alabama, deeds and plat maps were available online and free for a few months in 2009. When the Presiient of the County Commission discovered that her social security number, recorded on a document, was avaiable online, that service was discontinued. There was discussion about redacting personal information from documents, but that hasn't happened.
I don't think they realize that anyone can view and print any scanned information on the public computers in the Probate Office and leave without being seen by their staff.

 
Posted : December 7, 2010 2:21 pm