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A Big bend Texas Survey Pincushion

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(@monte)
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I see you guys posting pics of the pincushions you find in other pats of the world. Here I have to make a search to see if there is more than one corner monument in the area. In this case, the description called for a stone mound on the edge of the rim. That's where the GPS receiver is, on a recovered iron rod. The box to the right, about 50' or so, is where the second recovered iron rod, in a small pile of rocks, also on the rim was found. On the last day in the field, we had 3 survey corners to recover, and brought back coordinates of 8 stone mounds. Some with surveyors rebar (some with caps, some not), and one with an old rusty rotted pipe in the center.


 
Posted : June 6, 2017 9:53 am
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Are some of those another surveyors traverse points?

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 9:55 am
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I've always heard that things were bigger in texas....

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 10:11 am
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Mark Mayer, post: 431332, member: 424 wrote: Are some of those another surveyors traverse points?

While this one could be someones traverse point near the edge to see the large stone mound, the numerous other duplicates, triplicates, even quadruplicates, in the area suggest otherwise. From what I am seeing, this appears to be the case of the last property to be patented, with surveyors coming from the west, surveyors coming from the east, and not meeting up in the middle.

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 11:49 am
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Monte, post: 431351, member: 11913 wrote: While this one could be someones traverse point near the edge to see the large stone mound, the numerous other duplicates, triplicates, even quadruplicates, in the area suggest otherwise. From what I am seeing, this appears to be the case of the last property to be patented, with surveyors coming from the west, surveyors coming from the east, and not meeting up in the middle.

Are you in one of the T&P RR Surveys Blocks?
Sound like one
They are notorious for such shenanigans.

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 11:53 am
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Stephen Johnson, post: 431352, member: 53 wrote: Are you in one of the T&P RR Surveys Blocks?
Sound like one
They are notorious for such shenanigans.

This is actually near where some school lands come together near some GCSF RR and some script stuff was thrown in as fill ins when an error was found back around 1900....

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 12:38 pm
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Looks like one has evidence of reliance, the other has none. Might make a great traverse point, however.

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 12:58 pm
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I like your short rod setup for carrying on a horse - I have one very similar to it.

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 1:17 pm
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That looks like Alamito Creek in the distance, so if one were to guess that the "pincushion" is nominally on the NW line of Survey 342 in the name of the Ruidosa Irrigation Co. as originally surveyed by G.H. Brooks, Deputy Surveyor of Presidio County, Texas in 1877 using a variation of 11?ø30' East, what would he win? That is an unusual geometric situation in which a couple of survey lines intersect at a very acute angle, but with little evidence (as I best recall) that anything at all was originally set to mark that corner.

Is this one of those cases where "none of the above" may be the correct answer?

 
Posted : June 6, 2017 8:39 pm
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Well Kent you have the location right. I am still arguing in my head if the section 524 1/2 to the west was meant to be on the south half of 524 or if it was meant to be in addition to section 524. That makes a difference, because it determines if this corner is even necessary. The wording of the Patent for 524 1/2 is less than descriptive to say it politely.

 
Posted : June 7, 2017 4:57 am
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Considering that this is in Texas it is entirely possible that things grew a bit over the years, much like the typical survey story. ;);)

 
Posted : June 7, 2017 5:06 am
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I actually find it quite interesting how the distance from the truck is so much farther at the end of the day than it was at the beginning of the day... Guess the ground expands at it heats up.

 
Posted : June 7, 2017 5:45 am