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(@richard-imrie)
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Maybe it needs some spin:

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Posted : 21/10/2020 1:13 pm
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It's kind of funny, I became licensed last month and it seems like I went from a reasonably in-demand LSIT to a licensed guy without the 10+ years of project management experience that most places want. ???

I know I've made the comment 2 or 3 years ago that it seems like not many guys want, or have the time, to mentor and it still seems that way.?ÿ I mean just look around the threads here... how many guys say they can't wait until they retire??ÿ That's the same attitude I've seen from the guys that I've worked with.?ÿ It doesn't really surprise me that the entry level pay and benefits are poor when the guys who could make it better perpetually have 1 foot out the door.

 
Posted : 21/10/2020 7:41 pm
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As a PLS you spend your career hoping against hope that the lord will send you an angel of light who will permit themselves to be mentored. After many years and many disappointments you may get a little jaded, and fail to see the opportunity when it finally arrives. And in a flash, it's gone.

 
Posted : 21/10/2020 10:41 pm
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As a profession or trade, we have to pay our help. I'm paying decent i think,?ÿ but haven't figured out how to offer health care yet.?ÿ

 
Posted : 31/01/2021 7:04 pm
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Posted by: @mark-mayer

As a PLS you spend your career hoping against hope that the lord will send you an angel of light who will permit themselves to be mentored. After many years and many disappointments you may get a little jaded, and fail to see the opportunity when it finally arrives. And in a flash, it's gone.

When I was a tech, I spent years and years hoping that any of the dozen or so licensees I worked under would give me more than the occasional tidbit of information.

I left several firms because I just couldn't get the knowledge that I needed in order to level up and really understand the concepts which underpinned the methods and practices that I was being shown. I spent much of my off-hours reading surveying texts. Breezed through the FS and PS exams with self-study, but still felt I just had a bunch of random surveying concepts floating around in my head, that I understood individually but not as a whole.

In the end, going back and getting a formal education was the thing that really helped tie it all together. Despite what many licensees will claim, both teaching and mentoring are skills that have to be consciously practiced and honed.

And now that I am on the other side of that situation, it's tough to bring along folks aiming for licensure. Not because they aren't talented or intelligent, but because I literally don't have enough time in the day to teach boundary law, fundamentals of boundary construction, statistics, geodesy, satellite positioning, etc. and still be productive. 99% of what we do as licensees depends upon a solid grasp of the fundamentals, which are not easily taught on the job, and which far too few PLS candidates have.

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