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 FLS
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Has anyone worked with this firm?

They have requested an ALTA quote.

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Posted : July 16, 2015 6:53 am
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FLS, post: 327634, member: 647 wrote: Has anyone worked with this firm?

They have requested an ALTA quote.

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If you haven't looked at their web site explanation of ALTA surveys I suggest you do.

 
Posted : July 16, 2015 10:23 am
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Dallas,
We did and did not see any red flags there.
You must have seen something there you did not like, do you care to share that?
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Posted : July 16, 2015 10:58 am
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Dallas Morlan, post: 327678, member: 6020 wrote: If you haven't looked at their web site explanation of ALTA surveys I suggest you do.

I looked at their Phoenix office website and certainly heard some alarm bells going off.

 
Posted : July 16, 2015 11:32 am
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I know you do a lot of ALTA work Bruce, I'm really not catching anything too unusual. Most ALTA we've completed are with many different attorney's and title companies and have to be worked out as we go to get them completed to what they believe is correct. We usually have our push back items and they have theirs, but they always been completed and paid in full.

What I like to see is someone who actually knows what an ALTA is, and not just blindly requesting an ALTA.

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Posted : July 16, 2015 12:28 pm
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FLS, post: 327686, member: 647 wrote: Dallas,
We did and did not see any red flags there.
You must have seen something there you did not like, do you care to share that?
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Would depend on your state laws and who your contract is with. I saw two items that they would need to clarify for me. First in Ohio if they contract with the owner/purchaser for the survey they must have a certificate of authorization (CA) and a supervising surveyor licensed in Ohio. Their statement, quoted below, would imply they contract for the survey and subcontract/supervise the surveyor actually doing the work.

[INDENT=1]We manage the entire process of acquiring your survey and can effectively manage single-site or multi-site transactions. Our extensive network allows us the flexibility to provide a registered professional land surveyor for any site location, nationwide, with competitive pricing. We will coordinate all questions and comments from all transaction parties with the site surveyor, and furnish reliable timely surveys all from one point of contact. [/INDENT]

Without a CA that would be questionable in Ohio. Second is their description of ALTA Surveys.

[INDENT=1]ALTA/ACSM Surveys- Title Insurers have specific needs related to title insurance matters, and when asked to provide an insurance policy without any exception relating to survey matters, a set of regulations governing title surveys was developed between members of Title Insurance industry and surveyors. . . . The ALTA regulations govern the content of all ALTA surveys and are denoted in the "2011 MINIMUM STANDARD DETAIL REQUIREMENTS FOR ALTA/ACSM LAND TITLE SURVEYS" as adopted by American Land Title Association and National Society of Professional Surveyors. (emphasis added)[/INDENT]

I have never seen anyone refer to ALTA/ACSM as regulations. They are standards accepted by ALTA and ACSM (NSPS) that only apply when referenced as part of a contract for services. In addition, as recently noted in other posts here, local standards also apply.

 
Posted : July 16, 2015 1:05 pm
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Thanks Dallas

 
Posted : July 16, 2015 5:06 pm