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you commented earlier...
"I am not very interested in surveying buildings, but when do, there would be a separate survey with the improvements, for my client only that wouldn't have boundary details. The boundary survey would not have improvements and would be available to the public."
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If I'm understanding that correctly, you'd possibly end up with two maps of the same property, one showing just the boundary details and another survey/map showing the improvements ONLY??ÿ?ÿ
?ÿ ?ÿ I'm confused by the whole concept.?ÿ?ÿ maybe you just work with large tracts of land that isn't developed??ÿ
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This is the little paragraph in our minimum standards that is applied very far and wide.
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"Any data which is excluded from the survey by agreement with the client, such as
easements, setbacks, or other encumbrances shall be noted on the survey as ??not shown
by agreement with client.?
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This opens the door to focusing on the boundaries only.?ÿ And, with the exception of ALTA surveys, this describes 99.5 percent of all surveys I have viewed in the past more than four decades.?ÿ Some list every exception they can think of, such as the presence or absence of underground utilities, overhead lines, etc., etc., etc.
Normally the statement of what has been excluded is left off the drawing because it is clearly evident that only the boundaries were to be found or established.
If there are no scale issues there would be no reason to take the boundary information off the plat that shows the improvements.
But yes, two plats would be produced,.one for recording that only shows boundaries and easments, and one that shows whatever impovments the client needs. It is often as simple as turning off some layers and hitting the plot button again.?ÿ
Usualy it will be too cluttered with all the information pertaining to boundary determination and the improvements shown on the same plat anyway.?ÿ?ÿ
In a case where nothing reargding the boundary has substantially changed since a previous survey of record, the separate boundary plat could be dispensed with. Where the client has no need of a plat of the improvements their would only be a boundary plat.?ÿ
Huh? If your clients want improvements l, by all means provide them with that service. My only point is that there doesn't appear to be legal requirement to force that service on your clients if they don't want it.
Florida is clearly not my area of expertise though, and if there is some regulation or rulling that I am unaware of, I will thank you for educating me if you provide it.?ÿ
@flga-2-2
ALL improvements...roads, rockeries, flower beds? How far does this requirement reach?
And...why would a boundary survey require locating improvements that are no where near the boundary?
Just curious.
I've had requests from surveyors who had previously refused to give me a copy or even let me look at their copy of a survey. I figure that if I give them a copy of my survey that there is an increased chance that the other surveyor will get their survey done correctly, by matching my survey of course you can't go wrong. 😉
Some companies, usually large engineering companies have made me sign some sort of disclaimer that I will hold them harmless, blah, blah, blah. I just sign and get the copy, if I can use it great, if not I write 'FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY' - 'DO NOT USE' and throw it in the file. Also I prefer a signed and sealed paper copy rather than a CAD file.?ÿ
I've done this for a long time, and it's usually reciprocated well, along with developing professional relationships along the way.
ALL improvements
1. Just permanent structures.?ÿ
2. Because the parcel includes everything within the boundary.?ÿ
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Soooooooooooooooo, if you happen to leave SWMBO at home while you deliver the deed selling the home that means she goes with the parcel.?ÿ Some people might drop the price a lot if that's all it took.
Florida doesn??t consider humans as tangible assets. ?????ÿ
The USA outlawed transferring humans as property in 1865. ?????ÿ
@flga-2-2
2. Because the parcel includes everything within the boundary.?ÿ
But not everything within the boundary influences the boundary.?ÿ
It seems that FL you get a "Real Property Survey" rather than the simple "Boundary Survey" that everyone else gets.
I take responsibility for any survey I sign. If they are unable to offer enough information, to verify. I'll look through my files. If your a statue of limitation surveyor, I guess it doesn't matter.
@aliquot?ÿ ?ÿYou just don't get it, 99.9% of the surveys I prepare, ARE NOT because the client just wants to have a survey for no reason. If they are having the Survey prepared for buying, selling, borrowing money, permits, the county, the city, the state, subdividing or commercial development; Improvements will be located.?ÿ As far as 'you don't see the rule', do you drive 55mph in a 20 if no speed limit signs are visible? BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, that, if a lady calls up and wants to fence her residential lot, YES, then I can prepare a Survey that only shows near boundary improvements and states that "improvements were not located".
@oldpacer?ÿ bingo!?ÿ?ÿ
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I suppose their name is the hint that the majority of his/her work is pure section breakdowns.?ÿ ?ÿ I guess it's one way to not be busy.?ÿ?ÿ just survey "boundary only"?ÿ
I feel like I am on Facebook here. What am I not getting? As I said, if your clients want their improvements surveyed, of course you should survey the improvements. I was questioning the existence of a law or regulation that required surveying improvements. There is no such regulation. There is only a requirement to add a note saying impovments aren't included. That doesn't sound unreasonable to me.
99.9% of surveys everywhere are not done for no reason, but a significant percentage of surveys done all around the world, including Florida, are for the reason of determining where a client's boundaries are. Just becasue that is not your bread and butter, doesnt mean they don't exist.?ÿ
This comes down to simply being the difference in the standard for a certain area.?ÿ Here the standard is a boundary survey that is focused on the boundary only.?ÿ Adding improvements is very rare.?ÿ In your area the standard is different.?ÿ That is fine.?ÿ Neither standard is right or wrong.
As a hint to show that your assumption is wrong, I am licenced in two States that are not part of the PLSS.?ÿ
@aliquot?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ You STILL don't get it. It has NOTHING to do with the client wanting (or not wanting) their improvements located.
What doesn't??ÿ
If I was a FL surveyor and my client didn't need their improvements surveyed. I would survey their boundary and put a note on the plat that said improvements were not included.?ÿ
I understand that your clientele usually want you to survey their improvements.
Am I missing something??ÿ
