Check OAR 820-010-2020 (11). Allows that 12 years experience is valid qualification.
Items 1-10 detail the allowance for the degree, and variations thereof. But a degree is not an absolute requirement. There is still a path for experience only.
If you look at the matrix and processes on the board website, it appears that path is reserved for comity applicants. It may be available, but that is not evident on the public portal.
This article seems appropriate considering the OP and responses.
https://www.xyht.com/surveying/a-millennials-view-of-land-surveying/
We need to listen to the folks who will take the keys from us.
That article does not make one word of mention about the gigantic gorilla in the room. MONEY MONEY MONEY.
So long as a young person can make far more money doing a much easier job this profession will not attract many new folks.
In my town right now there is an Indeed ad from one of the local low price leaders. He is looking for a "surveyor" and this mythical person must have all the requisite skills of a experienced party chief with at least 1 year of experience.
His salary offering is a whopping $9 hour up to $20 hour. Both of those are insulting wages for his ad listing. And as I know him it is a dead end job.
I can guarantee nobody will do that job for $9 hr and there is no chance he will pony up $20 hr as he just does not charge enough.
... most people with college degrees are not willing to do physical work outside.
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I do not agree with this statement.
In addition, technology (GPS, robotics) are making the survey "crew" consist of one person so you do not have green horns learning the ropes.
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The number of personnel on a crew is no excuse not to train and mentor them. There should be a clearly defined path of advancement for everyone.
Charleston
I'd love to know anything about working with these new young surveyors (good or bad) ... .
One of our young field surveyors is very tech-savvy, which is a blessing. He created a code list for our data collectors.
I said "most" people with a 4 year degree are not willing to do physical work, not all. Obviously this depends on the job market where you live. In Charleston SC, things are booming and the job market is good right now. I agree with you that there should be a path to advancement in all companies but that is not always the case. It seems to me that if a company has 5 survey crews of 2 people each, that means that 5 instrument men are being trained for the future of the surveying profession. If a company buys 5 robots, then that means you only have 5 guys working solo. These 5 instrument men in the first example do not exist anymore.
While most of the points raised from thos entire subject is are valid, when is the last time noticed a job listing looking for an LSI/SIT/LSIT? In the five state area I have been searching for, a total of 3 have come up in the last 2 years.
Everyone is looking for an LS with at least 5 years experience, or a survey tech to go and pound out topo's for 10 months a year and be laid off for 2 months.
The mentorship and learning, for the most part, has left the profession. An individual may be able to go work for a small outfit, but not many people are able to survive on $18 an hour and substandard benefits. There is not a benefit to putting in the work, becoming an LSI when the middle step is non existant. At this point, you are either an LS or a survey tech. You can go to work with a demo hammer for a general contractor and make more then a LSI.
That at least is what I have seen happen in my area over the last 8 to 10 years.
I see lots of ads out for survey help. I also talk with a lot of people who don't bother advertising any more because nobody applies. Markets vary but you won't find many firms in the northwest who are fully staffed with technical help.
If you put in the work looking here, you can get a tech level position starting around 23 to 25 an hour plus benefits. Many will help with your education too. If you have the degree and LSI you can do much better.
