I don't see how to create a poll on here, please comment about states you're licensed in and/or have knowledge of?
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California is Ineffective.
What's the difference between unliscenced practice, and licenced persons, who cannot measure to a tolerance of 15' in 900 feet?
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What's the difference between unliscenced practice, and licenced persons, who cannot measure to a tolerance of 15' in 900 feet?
A stamp...and about 16,667 PPM.
I would think the better question is, "how effective do you feel your fellow professionals are at self regulation and reporting violations when discovered?"
what does that matter if the board won't do anything about it??ÿ I mean, I guess we could form a lynch mob.?ÿ
But yes, it is our responsibility to report, that was implied in the board action comment.?ÿ 🙂
@plumb-bill point being...there is no way for the board to discipline anything if it??s not reported. I would predict 100% of us has come across substandard work and questionable practice.
It's been a while but I was told by a member of the Georgia BOR that they had no power to regulate unregistered practice.?ÿ It would have to be pursued by the Attorney General's office and that they were not interested in pursuing the practice unless it involved large economic loss.?ÿ The BOR would (and did) write letters to the unlicensed individuals but if they didn't cease there was nothing they could do except to report it to the Attorney General.
I had much more problem with licensed individuals that "sold their stamp" or stamped plats that they did not review, much less perform.
Andy
Same in Florida. They can threaten but have zero authority. ?????ÿ
The NC Board has teeth and likes to bite.
Disciplinary action is at the end of the fall newsletter.
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No real impact on those who are not licensed.?ÿ A few of those who are licensed did get hit with some penalties but relatively minor.?ÿ Our Board adds in investigation expenses on top of the penalty and frequently pulls their license until certain things occur.
It seems nearly all Boards are impotent on truly punishing those who are not licensed.
When considering a formal complaint against a licensed surveyor does anyone address the violation with the accused, via any correspondence, prior to the actual filing? In some surveys I have seen, including my own, have omitted or included a minor ??necessity? incidental to the survey but not harming the public or owner.?ÿ
Many young guns are out there and don??t have the wisdom/experience we do and appreciate guidance on such issues rather than suffering the humility of a Board inquiry for a minor infraction.
By no means am I suggesting leniency for anyone, just remember when you first started and were scared as hell as well as common sense when reporting a fellow surveyor. ?????ÿ
First step should ALWAYS be to have at least one conversation with the presumed offender, starting off in a questioning manner to determine if this is simply a matter of opinion on something or an intentional violation of one or more of the land surveying rules.?ÿ Just because someone did it differently than the way you assume you would have done it does not mean they are necessarily wrong.
NC will throw some hefty fines at engineers practicing surveying without a license.?ÿ I often see engineering firms get popped for surveying or engineering without an NC license. A while back a fellow put out some ads for boundary corner location.?ÿ Basically he had a metal detector and would try to find rebar or pipes for $20 per found monument. He was promptly shut down.?ÿ
The AG will get involved when necessary.?ÿ I personally know a wetland scientist that was fined $2000 for locating his own flags down here.?ÿ There's some ambiguity concerning when a PLS is required to stamp mapping grade utility location for GIS.?ÿ I have mentioned to a few non licensed individuals that they should be careful about making statements concerning the accuracy of their GIS as this is a threshold for unlicensed practice.
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