I hate zoning, gawd how I hate zoning.
I can name that tune in 3 notes
We have a few municipalities where you would, nay must, survey the parent tract and monument the corners thereof with concrete and iron. You might appeal to the leader for exemption but you may not get it.
I can survey and map 3 acres without contours and with nominal improvements for $1500 and do ok. The subdivision part would raise the stakes 😉
Those are county review fees not surveying costs. The developer pays that fee.
> I hate zoning, gawd how I hate zoning.
If you hate zoning, how do you fee about impact fees? Nothing like an extra $26,000 to pull a building permit.
The only thing worse than P&Z is no P&Z. Take a drive through a town without and you'll see what I mean. The mismatched uses and construction are nice if you miss rural pakistan...
Ha Ha,
We had a proposal for 60k on a subdivision and an Engineering Firm came back with 5k. The client wanted us to lower our fee. We advised him to get an ironclad agreement with the Engineering Firm.
The client did not get an ironclad agreement and was given Change Orders to a total fee of 75k to 90k with the the project not yet completed. He returned to us and asked how much to complete their efforts.
60k.
> The only thing worse than P&Z is no P&Z. Take a drive through a town without and you'll see what I mean. The mismatched uses and construction are nice if you miss rural pakistan...
We don't have zoning outside the city here and no one is going to mistake rural Henry County, Tennessee for Pakistan.
Houston, Texas doesn't have zoning. Does it look like Pakistan?
If you are that gung ho about land use controls, maybe you should try moving to North Korea.
> The only thing worse than P&Z is no P&Z. Take a drive through a town without and you'll see what I mean. The mismatched uses and construction are nice if you miss rural pakistan...
Zoning sounds nice. "We are just trying to protect you and your neighborhood".
My experience is exactly the opposite. "We will use it as a hammer on anyone who doesn't show proper respect for our word being more important than that of GOD because even he has to get my approval before doing anything." And that quickly becomes "Oh look, this person is a person of power and influence. These rules don't apply to them. They can do anything they wish."
My experience is any benefit is far out weighed by the negatives of taking from those without power and giving to those with power.
Larry P
> Zoning sounds nice. "We are just trying to protect you and your neighborhood".
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> My experience is exactly the opposite. "We will use it as a hammer on anyone who doesn't show proper respect for our word being more important than that of GOD because even he has to get my approval before doing anything." And that quickly becomes "Oh look, this person is a person of power and influence. These rules don't apply to them. They can do anything they wish."
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> My experience is any benefit is far out weighed by the negatives of taking from those without power and giving to those with power.
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I agree 100%.
The more power government gets, the more easily it becomes corrupted.
Some left wingers agree with you.
It is felt that zoning is an impediment to sustainable, localized food practices. Zoning favors industrialized food production.
> The more power government gets, the more easily it becomes corrupted.
The more power removed government gets, the more easily it becomes corrupted.
De Tocqueville predicted that the natural independent streak of Americans would lead them to fail to exercise adequate local control at the city and county level and create a vacuum where the state and federal government would step in and replace the republic with empire.